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Expansion team(bit of fun)

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:16 pm
by Donkedave
Ok I’m the expansion team for 2024-25 season we are the Las Vegas CHIPS.
Every team gets to keep 7 of the current roster. So give the names of the players from your team that you would keep Yes the chips can only select a value of $145m from this list. And….. go enjoy it have some fun!

First to reply from a team will be the coach of that team and submitted players will stand.
The Chips can select up to 15 players from this list and will have draft picks of 31 & 61 going into the 2024 draft
Obviously your teams players will return to your team if not selected by the chips.
Poison pill contracts will be of averaged over the same amount of years as a starting wage including current season

If you leave a free agent off the list it’s the same as not signing them or extending them prior to draft.

RFA will be the same as normal you leave them off the list they sign with chips for same as current year
Player and team options will be classed as free agent if left off the list.
Upcoming free agents are also signed on current deals for 1 year with chips only if left off of lists.
Will use spotrac for current salary and contracts
Chips can only select a maximum of 2 players from any team. 2 way players if signed by the chips will be a minumum wage.
All salaries are averaged out over the length of current deals if

Teams taken so far
Pistons,
Mavs 1
Hornets 1
Bulls 2
Wizards 1
Magic 1
Raptors
Grizzlies 2
Wolves 1
Kings 1
Jazz 1
Hawks 1
Rockets 2
Lakers
Pacers 1
Heat

Current salary used$143,370,554

Signed our First player
Josh Green (PP)3 years @ $11,191,335 -UFA
Drummond 1 year @ $3,360,000. -UFA
Jordan Clarkson 3 years @ 17,288,640. -UFA
Dillon Brooks 4 years @ $21,500,00
Ziaire Williams 2 years @ 5,471,602 -RFA ext eligible
Saddiq Bey 1 year @ $4,556,983 -RFA
Cole Anthony (PP) 4 years @ $11,159,942 -UFA
Johnny Davis 3 years @ $5,696,063 -RFA ext eligible
Leonard Miller 4 years @ $2,079,935 -UFA
Nick Richards 3 years @ $5,000,000 -UFA
Lonzo Ball 2 years @ $20,930,232 -UFA
Harrison Barnes 3 years @ $18,000,000 -UFA
Jock Landale 3 years @ $8,000,000 -UFA
Jake LaRavia 3 year @ $3,905,242 -UFA
Jalen Smith 2 years @ $5,230,580 -UFA

PG Ball/Anthony/
SG Clarkson/Green/Davis
SF Brooks/Z.Willams/Bey
PF Barnes/Smith/LaRavia/Miller
C Landale/Drummond/Richards

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:22 pm
by Donkedave
:D :crazy: :banghead:

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm
by oldncreaky
Pistons:

This is depressingly easy

Keeping: Cade, Duren, Ivey, Thompson, Stewart, Fontecchio, Grimes, Sasser

Available: Stanley Umude, Troy Brown Jr.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:37 pm
by Donkedave
oldncreaky wrote:Pistons:

This is depressingly easy

Keeping: Cade, Duren, Ivey, Thompson, Stewart, Fontecchio, Grimes, Sasser

Available: Stanley Umude, Troy Brown Jr.

Sorry think I changed 8 to 7 after you response. Pls drop 1 off the list

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:38 pm
by Mavrelous
Mavs
Luka, Kyrie, Lively, PJ Washington, Exum, Gafford, OMax and Hardy/Green
Unprotected:
Green/Hardy
Maxi Kleber
THJ
AJ Lawson
Powell

FAs: DJJ and Morris

Mavs will probabely lose Green/Hardy in the expansion.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:39 pm
by oldncreaky
Donkedave wrote:
oldncreaky wrote:Pistons:

This is depressingly easy

Keeping: Cade, Duren, Ivey, Thompson, Stewart, Fontecchio, Grimes, Sasser

Available: Stanley Umude, Troy Brown Jr.

Sorry think I changed 8 to 7 after you response. Pls drop 1 off the list


Yeah, noticed that, no problem

It's still easy: drop Sasser

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:40 pm
by HornetJail
Since Miles Bridges is a UFA and his bird rights can't be claimed, Charlotte's got a very easy top 6: Melo, Mark, Miller, Micic, Mann, Grant Williams. #7 would either be Nick Smith Jr or Nick Richards, I would go NSJ

That leaves Davis Bertans (partial guarantee), Cody Martin, Nick Richards, Seth Curry (UNG), JT Thor (UNG/Team option), Bryce McGowens (UNG), Poku (UNG) available. I'd be floored if Richards wasn't selected by an expansion team to be honest but I'm so sick of watching him play that I don't care

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:49 pm
by Donkedave
Teams taken so far
Pistons,
Mavs
Hornets,
Bulls
Wizards
Magic
Raptors
Grizzlies
Wolves
Kings
Jazz
Hawks
Rockets
Lakers

$81,878,503

PG /Anthony/
SG Clarkson/Green/
SF DeRozan/Z.Williams/Bey
PF//
C /Drummond/

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:53 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs
Luka, Kyrie, Lively, PJ Washington, Exum, Gafford, OMax and Hardy/Green
Unprotected:
Green/Hardy
Maxi Kleber
THJ
AJ Lawson
Powell

FAs: DJJ and Morris

Mavs will probabely lose Green/Hardy in the expansion.


I think this is right. For me its pretty easy to unprotect Hardy over Green. I think you could even argue unprotecting Exum because what does an expansion team want with him really? Maybe you do one of those toss a 2nd rounder at them to not draft him.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:59 pm
by Mavrelous
Texas Chuck wrote:I think this is right. For me its pretty easy to unprotect Hardy over Green. I think you could even argue unprotecting Exum because what does an expansion team want with him really? Maybe you do one of those toss a 2nd rounder at them to not draft him.

Is this legal?
The argument for Hardy over Green is that Mavs will likely lose THJ and Hardy is a better replacement.
The argument for risking Green is: Green isn't good in the starting lineup for the purpose he was supposed to fill, POA defender, and if he's a bench player on the Mavs, they'd risk losing him on expansion, and use his salary slot on a better fit.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:01 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mavrelous wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I think this is right. For me its pretty easy to unprotect Hardy over Green. I think you could even argue unprotecting Exum because what does an expansion team want with him really? Maybe you do one of those toss a 2nd rounder at them to not draft him.

Is this legal?
The argument for Hardy over Green is that Mavs will likely lose THJ and Hardy is a better replacement.
The argument for risking Green is: Green isn't good in the starting lineup for the purpose he was supposed to fill, POA defender, and if he's a bench player on the Mavs, they'd risk losing him on expansion, and use his salary slot on a better fit.


I'm just not convinced Hardy is a playoff rotation player. Green is. And with Jones gone, he might be right back in the starting lineup next year.

Now if Dallas can reallocate his salary with their limited remaining assets to upgrade him, sure, but Dallas isn't at a point to let better players go imo.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:06 pm
by Donkedave
HornetJail wrote:Since Miles Bridges is a UFA and his bird rights can't be claimed, Charlotte's got a very easy top 6: Melo, Mark, Miller, Micic, Mann, Grant Williams. #7 would either be Nick Smith Jr or Nick Richards, I would go NSJ

That leaves Davis Bertans (partial guarantee), Cody Martin, Nick Richards, Seth Curry (UNG), JT Thor (UNG/Team option), Bryce McGowens (UNG), Poku (UNG) available. I'd be floored if Richards wasn't selected by an expansion team to be honest but I'm so sick of watching him play that I don't care


Have to choose 7 players on this list. FA included it’s an expansion draft remember.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:11 pm
by Mavrelous
Having full MLE in the aftermath of the new CBA is better than in previous years, few teams have it and the hardcapping at 1st Apron is no longer limiting since teams can't trade for bigger salary w/o hardcapping either way.
Throwing full MLE at Melton for example and BAE on DJJ, will result in a better fit.
I agree Green is a good player, but his fit as a starter in DAL is suspect, you don't use his on ball qualities and navigating screens is his main shortcoming on defense while being a must have quality for Mavs 2nd guard, and that's where DAL needs to invest the last piece.
If Green is exposed on expansion draft. he's most likely gone, so they should do it only when they have a plan.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:19 pm
by ChettheJet
keeping
White
Dosunmu
Williams
Phillips
Caruso
Bitim
Craig

up for grabs
Lavine
Ball
Taylor
Vucevic
Terry
Funk

UFA
DeRozan
Drummond


Lavine makes a lot, a team would save the Bulls from Vucevic, I don't know where the injured Ball falls
nobody up for grabs has played enough or well enough to be attractive

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:38 pm
by Nyce_1
Orlando protects:

Paolo
Franz
Isaac
Suggs
Black
Jett
Wendell

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:12 pm
by penbeast0
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

Avdija, Coulibaly, Kuzma, Kispert, after that it's even more depressing than Detroit ;-)

Maybe Vucevic, PBJ, Omoruyi

Please, go ahead and take Poole! Probably lose Johnny Davis.

If Free Agents go on the keep list, then Tyus Jones and (my opinion though apparently not the team's) Jared Butler rather than PBJ and Omoruyi.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:19 pm
by wegotthabeet
Toronto:

Barnes
Quickley
Barrett
Pöltl
Dick
Olynyk
Agbaji

Tough decision not to protect B. Brown, but at least they would create cap room if he’s picked up.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:29 pm
by psman2
Memphis:

Ja
Bane
JJJ
Smart
GG Jackson
Vincent Williams
Santi Aldama

Must easier than previous recent years.

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:53 pm
by Wolveswin
Wolves:
Edwards
Towns
Gobert
McDaniels
Conley
Reid
NAW

That leaves all the cheap/young contracts available:
Miller
Minott
Moore Jr

Free Agents:
Anderson
Morris
McLaughlin

Re: Expansion team

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:09 pm
by OxAndFox
Sacramento:
Keep:
Fox
Sabonis
Keegan
Monk
Lyles
Ellis
Huerter

Available:
Barnes
Davion
Duarte
Sasha
Jones
Edwards
Len
McGee