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TRADE 1 (This may be rich by a FRP from ORL)

Oklahoma City Trades
Osumane Dieng to PDX
2024 UTA FRP to PDX (Top-10 / Top-10 / Top-8)

Oklahoma City Receives
Wendell Carter JR from ORL

Orlando Trades
Wendell Carter JR to OKC
2025 DEN FRP to PDX (Top-5 / Top-5 / Top-5)
2026 ORL FRP to PDX (LP / LP / LP)

Orlando Receives
Anfernee Simons from PDX

Portland Trades
Anfernee Simons

Portland Receives
Osumane Dieng from OKC
2024 UTA FRP from OKC (Top-10 / Top-10 / Top-8)
2025 DEN FRP from ORL (Top-5 / Top-5 / Top-5)
2026 ORL FRP to PDX (LP / LP / LP)

WHY FOR OKC
They add a much needed backup big who is a system fit offensively with his floor spacing and smart passing. WCJ is quite cheap for what he brings and would be one of the best backup bigs in the league.

WHY FOR ORL
The Magic are trending upwards and here cash in some assets to get that elusive lead scoring guard. Simons fits the age timeline and brings much needed shooting and shot creation from the guard spot. They elect to resign Goga in this scenario and roll w/ Goga / Mo / JI at the C spot.

WHY FOR PDX
The team has invested 2 high picks in guards and elects here to move off Simons and truly start the Scoot / Sharpe era. 3 low variance FRP is a nice haul even if none project super high. Dieng is another forward to kick the tires on. Here they likely keep Brogdan to ensure some vet presence behind the young guards.

TRADE 2

Oklahoma City Trades
Kenrich Williams F
2025 MIA FRP (LP / UNP)
4 future SRP

Minnesota Trades
Naz Reid FC

WHY FOR OKC
Reid is an ideal fit next to Chet – he can shoot so he doesn’t impact their 4 out scheme but has the bulk to bang with bigger guys in matchups where Chet takes the 4 defensively. He is locked into a very reasonable deal and his age fits the timeline.

WHY FOR MIN
They need to cut some money and here save 6-7M. Williams allows them to replace some of what Kyle Anderson brings and they snag a FRP for a guy that is likely a perennial backup in MIN. I strongly believe they wont move a ‘core’ guy (IE KAT, Rudy, etc) to alleviate the salary burden and instead think they make some smaller moves to save money – this being one of them. Also grab a gaggle of SRP.

RESIGN / EXTEND
Josh Giddey F *** 4 years / 18M AV *** - They elect to pay Josh early to get his AV down slightly. He has warts, but in this scenario is being paid to lead the 2nd unit and would absolutely excel in doing so with the 2nd unit shooting that is put around him. When the time comes, if money is tight, he should be a very tradable contract.

Gordon Hayward F *** 2 years / 20M / 2nd year TO *** - This is an overpay, but it is done so to give OKC more salary ballast should they find a move down the road that requires more outgoing money. GH will be a 3rd stringer but likely get minutes when guys go down as he can play either F spot.

FREE AGENCY
Patty Mills *** Vet Min *** - Can be someone else but think they could use a nice vet backup 3rd stringer at PG.

NBA DRAFT
#12 (From HOU) – Dalton Knecht F – The bench unit is filled with specialist but lacks a 3 level scorer. Dalton is very developed from all 3 levels and projects as a immediate contributor as a scorer. Not sure his defense allows him to snag a starting spot but a 2nd unit consisting of Wallace / Joe / Dalton / Josh / WCJ is absolutely lethal.

2024/25 ROSTER
G – Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace / Patty Mills
G – Lou Dort / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins / Lindy Waters III
F – Jalen Williams / Dalton Knecht / Aaron Wiggins
F – Naz Reid / Josh Giddey / Gordon Hayward
C – Chet Holmgren / Wendell Carter JR / Jaylin Williams

This isn't an OKC off-season lol. This is lets get 4 first round picks out of Simons thread. Which feels optimistic to me.

As to the rest Giddey shouldn't lock himself into that when he has to understand he's an ill-fitting part. He should want to give himself a chance to hit free agency because a team willing to let him play PG should pay more and set him up for his next contract. Huge overpay on Hayward and Mills is washed.

Don't understand investing money and resources into both Carter and Reed at all. Especially not if you are going to play Carter OOP and pay his backups $40M.

OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.

Texas Chuck wrote:This isn't an OKC off-season lol. This is lets get 4 first round picks out of Simons thread. Which feels optimistic to me.

As to the rest Giddey shouldn't lock himself into that when he has to understand he's an ill-fitting part. He should want to give himself a chance to hit free agency because a team willing to let him play PG should pay more and set him up for his next contract. Huge overpay on Hayward and Mills is washed.

Don't understand investing money and resources into both Carter and Reed at all. Especially not if you are going to play Carter OOP and pay his backups $40M.

Its 3 FRP almost certain to be in the 20's range. I do agree it may be 1 too much.

Also can see Josh betting on himself and OKC letting the market dictate his cost in summer 2025. OKC has attempted to lock guys early up before, which is why I included that.

Hayward overpay is explained - its a Presti type move that gives them a 10M movable contract.

OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.

I am on team 'Jalen Williams is a legit #2' and think their 'big-3' is good enough to eventually win a ring. This plan was aimed to add reasonably priced vets who are not too old and fit the scheme well. My apologies for attempting to present something new rather than rehashing Lauri to OKC for the one billionth time.

I think Simons is worth about half of what OP is asking for.

BlazersBroncos wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:This isn't an OKC off-season lol. This is lets get 4 first round picks out of Simons thread. Which feels optimistic to me.

As to the rest Giddey shouldn't lock himself into that when he has to understand he's an ill-fitting part. He should want to give himself a chance to hit free agency because a team willing to let him play PG should pay more and set him up for his next contract. Huge overpay on Hayward and Mills is washed.

Don't understand investing money and resources into both Carter and Reed at all. Especially not if you are going to play Carter OOP and pay his backups $40M.

Its 3 FRP almost certain to be in the 20's range. I do agree it may be 1 too much.

Also can see Josh betting on himself and OKC letting the market dictate his cost in summer 2025. OKC has attempted to lock guys early up before, which is why I included that.

Hayward overpay is explained - its a Presti type move that gives them a 10M movable contract.

OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.

I am on team 'Jalen Williams is a legit #2' and think their 'big-3' is good enough to eventually win a ring. This plan was aimed to add reasonably priced vets who are not too old and fit the scheme well. My apologies for attempting to present something new rather than rehashing Lauri to OKC for the one billionth time.

Didn't realize the only 2 options were this or Lauri....

I just don't like these choices. It's okay if we disagree

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I don’t think there’s a better big 3 in the league than OKC’s (Clips maybe?) and two of them are sophomores.

4th option elite mobile defender who can board at the 4 spot is my unicorn Im chasing with assets. But OKC also going to keep a lot of future assets to keep cycling role players.

I think OKC needs to add actual size. Even the smallest NBA champions got big contributions from guys like Kevon Looney, Andrew Bogut and Chris Anderson.

Otherwise, big teams win titles. Denver with Jokic, Raptors with Gasol/Ibaka, Lakers with AD/Dwight, Bucks with Giannis/Lopez.

Until OKC can address their lack of size, I have a hard time seeing them win any playoff series against any team with size. They should be able to beat Phoenix, but every other West team should roll over them.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I don’t think there’s a better big 3 in the league than OKC’s (Clips maybe?) and two of them are sophomores.

4th option elite mobile defender who can board at the 4 spot is my unicorn Im chasing with assets. But OKC also going to keep a lot of future assets to keep cycling role players.

I'd still take Boston and Denver over OKC. They are much more playoff tested.

Colbinii wrote:I think OKC needs to add actual size. Even the smallest NBA champions got big contributions from guys like Kevon Looney, Andrew Bogut and Chris Anderson.

Otherwise, big teams win titles. Denver with Jokic, Raptors with Gasol/Ibaka, Lakers with AD/Dwight, Bucks with Giannis/Lopez.

Until OKC can address their lack of size, I have a hard time seeing them win any playoff series against any team with size. They should be able to beat Phoenix, but every other West team should roll over them.

I mean we’ll see. Given that OKC is 33-16 against West teams that’s a pretty unlikely prediction. “Roll over” feels like your personal bias.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I think OKC needs to add actual size. Even the smallest NBA champions got big contributions from guys like Kevon Looney, Andrew Bogut and Chris Anderson.

Otherwise, big teams win titles. Denver with Jokic, Raptors with Gasol/Ibaka, Lakers with AD/Dwight, Bucks with Giannis/Lopez.

Until OKC can address their lack of size, I have a hard time seeing them win any playoff series against any team with size. They should be able to beat Phoenix, but every other West team should roll over them.

I mean we’ll see. Given that OKC is 33-16 against West teams that’s a pretty unlikely prediction. “Roll over” feels like your personal bias.

We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Colbinii wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I think OKC needs to add actual size. Even the smallest NBA champions got big contributions from guys like Kevon Looney, Andrew Bogut and Chris Anderson.

Otherwise, big teams win titles. Denver with Jokic, Raptors with Gasol/Ibaka, Lakers with AD/Dwight, Bucks with Giannis/Lopez.

Until OKC can address their lack of size, I have a hard time seeing them win any playoff series against any team with size. They should be able to beat Phoenix, but every other West team should roll over them.

I mean we’ll see. Given that OKC is 33-16 against West teams that’s a pretty unlikely prediction. “Roll over” feels like your personal bias.

We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Genuinely curious how you think the Golden State dynasty which runs entirely counter to your view fits in here.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I mean we’ll see. Given that OKC is 33-16 against West teams that’s a pretty unlikely prediction. “Roll over” feels like your personal bias.

We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Genuinely curious how you think the Golden State dynasty which runs entirely counter to your view fits in here.

He mentioned them having likes of Bogut/Looney/Anderson etc. OKC don't have a draymond green comp either

Godaddycurse wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:
We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Genuinely curious how you think the Golden State dynasty which runs entirely counter to your view fits in here.

He mentioned them having likes of Bogut/Looney/Anderson etc. OKC don't have a draymond green comp either

Ok and none of those teams had a Chet type either who can lock down the paint, run the break, and stretch the floor with elite shooting, allowing a top defense to play five out on offense. We will see how it plays out.

2nd youngest team in the league with a war chest of assets and the coach of the year, I think they understand what they are doing and how the team is being built. I promise they know who their bigs are. Been pretty successful like this.

Texas Chuck wrote:

BlazersBroncos wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:This isn't an OKC off-season lol. This is lets get 4 first round picks out of Simons thread. Which feels optimistic to me.

As to the rest Giddey shouldn't lock himself into that when he has to understand he's an ill-fitting part. He should want to give himself a chance to hit free agency because a team willing to let him play PG should pay more and set him up for his next contract. Huge overpay on Hayward and Mills is washed.

Don't understand investing money and resources into both Carter and Reed at all. Especially not if you are going to play Carter OOP and pay his backups $40M.

Its 3 FRP almost certain to be in the 20's range. I do agree it may be 1 too much.

Also can see Josh betting on himself and OKC letting the market dictate his cost in summer 2025. OKC has attempted to lock guys early up before, which is why I included that.

Hayward overpay is explained - its a Presti type move that gives them a 10M movable contract.

OKC should be consolidating more than anything else. Get big man depth behind that, but go get a legit 2nd best player.

I am on team 'Jalen Williams is a legit #2' and think their 'big-3' is good enough to eventually win a ring. This plan was aimed to add reasonably priced vets who are not too old and fit the scheme well. My apologies for attempting to present something new rather than rehashing Lauri to OKC for the one billionth time.

Didn't realize the only 2 options were this or Lauri....

I just don't like these choices. It's okay if we disagree

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I’d love to see what other realistic options as a #2 are even possible. I don’t really see any.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I mean we’ll see. Given that OKC is 33-16 against West teams that’s a pretty unlikely prediction. “Roll over” feels like your personal bias.

We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Genuinely curious how you think the Golden State dynasty which runs entirely counter to your view fits in here.

I think you are having difficulty reading entire posts.

Looney started in 13 of 22 games in the 2022 Post-Season and essentially has played 20 MPG in each post-season for Golden State since 2018.

Furthermore, Draymond Green is an All-time Great defensive player with incredible lower and upper body strength.

Ok and none of those teams had a Chet type either who can lock down the paint, run the break, and stretch the floor with elite shooting, allowing a top defense to play five out on offense. We will see how it plays out.

Chet has gotten physically outmatched by multiple big man in the NBA, including AD, Jokic, Gobert and Sabonis. These are the types of big men where OKC has no answers to them and provides an advantage to these players and teams over OKC as physicality scales up in the Post-Season.

Chet is a terrific player, nobody is saying otherwise

2nd youngest team in the league with a war chest of assets and the coach of the year, I think they understand what they are doing and how the team is being built. I promise they know who their bigs are. Been pretty successful like this.

They have been very successful in the Regular Season. Nobody is saying otherwise

Colbinii wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Colbinii wrote:
We all have personal biases. You claim Jalen Williams is a Top 30 player and OKC has the best Big 3.

My view is largely based on the weaknesses of OKC, the size of most west teams and how matchups work in the post-season at a historical level.

It's definitely possible SGA goes 1988 Michael Jordan on the league but size is a real thing that actual matters in the post-season.

Genuinely curious how you think the Golden State dynasty which runs entirely counter to your view fits in here.

I think you are having difficulty reading entire posts.

Looney started in 13 of 22 games in the 2022 Post-Season and essentially has played 20 MPG in each post-season for Golden State since 2018.

Furthermore, Draymond Green is an All-time Great defensive player with incredible lower and upper body strength.

Ok and none of those teams had a Chet type either who can lock down the paint, run the break, and stretch the floor with elite shooting, allowing a top defense to play five out on offense. We will see how it plays out.

Chet has gotten physically outmatched by multiple big man in the NBA, including AD, Jokic, Gobert and Sabonis. These are the types of big men where OKC has no answers to them and provides an advantage to these players and teams over OKC as physicality scales up in the Post-Season.

Chet is a terrific player, nobody is saying otherwise

2nd youngest team in the league with a war chest of assets and the coach of the year, I think they understand what they are doing and how the team is being built. I promise they know who their bigs are. Been pretty successful like this.

They have been very successful in the Regular Season. Nobody is saying otherwise

Big teams win chips except for the recent dynasty.

Jaylen Williams is the same size as Looney. Looney is 6’9” 220. He’s not that big.

Rudy struggled with Chet a bunch defensively. OKC schemes defensively which is why they have had so much success. They don’t need to put Chet on an island he roams while someone like Jaylen plays the big. Again, we will see.

When I told you over the summer OKC would be a better team than the Wolves I certainly didn’t expect them to be 1 and 2 in the conference.

Before the deadline, I was sure OKC would trade for a star or at least a big. (Posted probably a dozen Pascal ideas in those 6 months) But Presti not even bidding (I don’t think) on Pascal or Gafford.. Makes me think Presti either wants to maintain his picks for a true star or he’s comfortable building around his group

I like the idea of WCJ or Naz. But don’t think you need both. Either trade in OP is good enough.

jayjaysee wrote:Before the deadline, I was sure OKC would trade for a star or at least a big. (Posted probably a dozen Pascal ideas in those 6 months) But Presti not even bidding (I don’t think) on Pascal or Gafford.. Makes me think Presti either wants to maintain his picks for a true star or he’s comfortable building around his group

I like the idea of WCJ or Naz. But don’t think you need both. Either trade in OP is good enough.

I’m trading for Naz and making a free agency offer for a big . Like a Goga or one of those pacers big if any hit free agency .

Devilanche wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Before the deadline, I was sure OKC would trade for a star or at least a big. (Posted probably a dozen Pascal ideas in those 6 months) But Presti not even bidding (I don’t think) on Pascal or Gafford.. Makes me think Presti either wants to maintain his picks for a true star or he’s comfortable building around his group

I like the idea of WCJ or Naz. But don’t think you need both. Either trade in OP is good enough.

I’m trading for Naz and making a free agency offer for a big . Like a Goga or one of those pacers big if any hit free agency .

I don’t mind spending on Goga or Jonas or Smith as long as it’s only a bloated one year deal (or maybe two if you know you’re moving on from Josh) or if you think they will be long term pieces/worth the tax I guess. I just don’t.

But I don’t know if they really need to add two good bigs. Jalen is too good next to Chet to move on from that lineup. Maybe you want to learn from GSW and use the lineup less - but you still need/want to use it.

How good does your 4th big really need to be? How much better than Jaylin? Or do you end up drafting Flip or Clingan..

I know I’d trade out of the 2024 draft pick(s) for future picks and just spend the 30-35 million in free agency/trades. But I don’t know their plan.