Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston)

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Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#1 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:15 am

Houston trade: Dillon Brooks, 2nd(s)?
Milwaukee trade: Brook Lopez

Why for Houston: add a perfect part time complement to Sengun at C, free up minutes for their young wings and capspace for 2025
Why for Milwaukee: upgrade perimeter D and intangibles

Is Dillon positive value at this point? should the 2nds be a heavily protected 1st instead?
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#2 » by LarsV8 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:44 am

I think Adams + Lopez + Sengun would be a bit overloaded at center.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#3 » by Colbinii » Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:57 am

What happens to Adams here?
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#4 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:01 am

Colbinii wrote:What happens to Adams here?


traded elsewhere presumably. im sure OKC will take him. I like Brook's fit better
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#5 » by Colbinii » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:09 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:What happens to Adams here?


traded elsewhere presumably. im sure OKC will take him. I like Brook's fit better


As what?

Both Sengun and Lopez are 30+ MPG Centers.

There is no reason to move a starting wing for a back-up Center for 16 MPG when you have Adams.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#6 » by Xman » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:16 am

I love what Brooks has done in Houston. Still, this would make the interior really good. Sengun/Lopez/Jabari getting 32 minutes each (or close).
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#7 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:18 am

Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:What happens to Adams here?


traded elsewhere presumably. im sure OKC will take him. I like Brook's fit better


As what?

Both Sengun and Lopez are 30+ MPG Centers.

There is no reason to move a starting wing for a back-up Center for 16 MPG when you have Adams.


Im sure they can play together in spurts (similar to how lopez shares the floor with giannis), esp against other teams big lineups.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#8 » by Colbinii » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:20 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
traded elsewhere presumably. im sure OKC will take him. I like Brook's fit better


As what?

Both Sengun and Lopez are 30+ MPG Centers.

There is no reason to move a starting wing for a back-up Center for 16 MPG when you have Adams.


Im sure they can play together in spurts (similar to how lopez shares the floor with giannis), esp against other teams big lineups.


Giannis plays from the perimeter and attacks offensively, very different than Sengun.

Giannis is extremely mobile defensively as a roamer, Sengun isn't.

I don't see it, but maybe Sengun is like Giannis in his mobility :lol:
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#9 » by Karsenmitsche » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:11 am

Bucks can desperately use someone like Brooks and Houston wanted Lopez in the off-season. Contracts match up would make a ton of sense.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#10 » by K_chile22 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:34 am

Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:What happens to Adams here?


traded elsewhere presumably. im sure OKC will take him. I like Brook's fit better


As what?

Both Sengun and Lopez are 30+ MPG Centers.

There is no reason to move a starting wing for a back-up Center for 16 MPG when you have Adams.
Yeah I don't really get this one, Houston wanted Brook before Sengun ascended, calculus is quite different. Maybe if you find a third team to get Houston an asset For Brook if they're trying to throw a bunch of picks at some team?
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#11 » by jayjaysee » Tue Apr 9, 2024 11:45 am

If Milwaukee could legally get Adams back in the deal, I like it. But I don’t see it for Milwaukee honestly. I’d want to know what center is replacing Brook, because the team is very limited and I wouldn’t want to bank on Portis/Giannis center rotation.

For Houston, they can aggregate Adams salary and upgrade Brooks else where, while using Lopez as a 16-20mpg backup and big minutes when needed. He’s better than that, but maybe the reduced role extends his career..

Probably a bad idea.. but with these two teams

what does Houston add in a Middleton/Brooks swap? They’d likely have had to decide in maxing Sengun early and moving on from the potential 2025 free agent market I understand..

But between whatever Houston adds in that trade, Milwaukee’s own 2024 first and Portland’s 2024 second.. can Milwaukee use the small 8.7mil TPE in a way that makes the deal worthwhile?
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#12 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 12:47 pm

Sengun and Brook can’t play together. Neither can guard forwards. I don’t hate the value and overall premise if Sengun is moved for some reason though.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#13 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Apr 9, 2024 12:55 pm

jayjaysee wrote:If Milwaukee could legally get Adams back in the deal, I like it. But I don’t see it for Milwaukee honestly. I’d want to know what center is replacing Brook, because the team is very limited and I wouldn’t want to bank on Portis/Giannis center rotation.

For Houston, they can aggregate Adams salary and upgrade Brooks else where, while using Lopez as a 16-20mpg backup and big minutes when needed. He’s better than that, but maybe the reduced role extends his career..

Probably a bad idea.. but with these two teams

what does Houston add in a Middleton/Brooks swap? They’d likely have had to decide in maxing Sengun early and moving on from the potential 2025 free agent market I understand..

But between whatever Houston adds in that trade, Milwaukee’s own 2024 first and Portland’s 2024 second.. can Milwaukee use the small 8.7mil TPE in a way that makes the deal worthwhile?


What about 3 way deal of

Kennard + Aldama to Houston
Brooks to Milwaukee
Lopez to Memphis

Houston gets shooting and a servicable pf behind jabari, capspace in 2025
MIlwaukee gets wing D
Memphis gets starting C
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#14 » by Colbinii » Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:25 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:If Milwaukee could legally get Adams back in the deal, I like it. But I don’t see it for Milwaukee honestly. I’d want to know what center is replacing Brook, because the team is very limited and I wouldn’t want to bank on Portis/Giannis center rotation.

For Houston, they can aggregate Adams salary and upgrade Brooks else where, while using Lopez as a 16-20mpg backup and big minutes when needed. He’s better than that, but maybe the reduced role extends his career..

Probably a bad idea.. but with these two teams

what does Houston add in a Middleton/Brooks swap? They’d likely have had to decide in maxing Sengun early and moving on from the potential 2025 free agent market I understand..

But between whatever Houston adds in that trade, Milwaukee’s own 2024 first and Portland’s 2024 second.. can Milwaukee use the small 8.7mil TPE in a way that makes the deal worthwhile?


What about 3 way deal of

Kennard + Aldama to Houston
Brooks to Milwaukee
Lopez to Memphis

Houston gets shooting and a servicable pf behind jabari, capspace in 2025


Houston is already getting some cap space in 2025.

I have them at 113 Million with Green/Sengun each at 30 Million.

My guess is they try and negotiate each of them this summer, but I have a hard time seeing Houston letting both Green and Sengun hit RFA following the 2024-2025 season.

Memphis gets starting C


This is a no-brainer for Memphis since they give up 0 value for a good starting Center. They need to add something here.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#15 » by K_chile22 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:33 pm

Colbinii wrote:Houston is already getting some cap space in 2025.

I have them at 113 Million with Green/Sengun each at 30 Million.

My guess is they try and negotiate each of them this summer, but I have a hard time seeing Houston letting both Green and Sengun hit RFA following the 2024-2025 season.



I think it's possible they give sengun a wink wink since he has a small cap hold and they have max space in 2025 by just declining Fred's option
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#16 » by psman2 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:58 pm

Memphis gets starting C


This is a no-brainer for Memphis since they give up 0 value for a good starting Center. They need to add something here.


Memphis still values Aldama so in our eyes he is value here, but Memphis might be willing to swap him out for Zaire and a top 20 protected 2025 1st here instead. But this trade would firmly leave us above the 1st apron and much deeper into the tax and not sure if we willing to go there for a guy that is likely entering his last season as a starting level guy.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#17 » by Colbinii » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:06 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:Houston is already getting some cap space in 2025.

I have them at 113 Million with Green/Sengun each at 30 Million.

My guess is they try and negotiate each of them this summer, but I have a hard time seeing Houston letting both Green and Sengun hit RFA following the 2024-2025 season.



I think it's possible they give sengun a wink wink since he has a small cap hold and they have max space in 2025 by just declining Fred's option


I don't think Sengun would agree to a wink wink. He comes from a poor family and locking in the money as soon as possible is likely what he's going to prefer.
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#18 » by ChettheJet » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:22 pm

Where is Scott Brooks when you need him?
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#19 » by K_chile22 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:46 pm

Colbinii wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:Houston is already getting some cap space in 2025.

I have them at 113 Million with Green/Sengun each at 30 Million.

My guess is they try and negotiate each of them this summer, but I have a hard time seeing Houston letting both Green and Sengun hit RFA following the 2024-2025 season.



I think it's possible they give sengun a wink wink since he has a small cap hold and they have max space in 2025 by just declining Fred's option


I don't think Sengun would agree to a wink wink. He comes from a poor family and locking in the money as soon as possible is likely what he's going to prefer.
Sure but that's the beauty (aka scam) of restricted free agency lol
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Re: Trade of Brooks (Milwaukee - Houston) 

Post#20 » by Kiss of Death » Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:36 pm

Trading Brooks makes sense for a few reasons.

1. A lot of contenders can use his skill set.
2. Either Amen or Tari could take his starting spot.
3. The Rockets have to start signing the young guys to extensions soon.

That being said, since they have Steven Adams now, Lopez isn’t the answer. Maybe a three team trade. Or just see what else is out there for Brooks.

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