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Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:10 am
by NYG
Tyler Herro and Lottery Protected Miami Heat 2030 First Round Draft Pick (obligation extinguished if not conveyed) for T.J. McConnell and Jalen Smith (signed and traded to a 4 year contract starting at $12.5 Million)

-After losing Buddy Hield at the trade deadline (and McConnell in this trade plus possibly McDermott), this gives the Pacers a nice shooter off the bench to mix it up with their guard rotation for essentially T.J. McConnell and a guy they would lose anyway in free agency in Smith plus they potentially get a first round pick.

-If Miami had a 14-man roster with three two-way players, they would be under the tax outright with this move while retaining Bam/Jimmy plus Jovic/JJJ/15th Overall. McConnell is a nice veteran piece of the bench that should be a nice fit with the culture and Smith would be a nice compliment to Bam.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:07 am
by NYG
Tyrese Haliburton $35,250,000
Myles Turner $19,928,500
Aaron Nesmith $11,000,000
Tyle Herro $29,000,000
Bennedict Mathurin $7,245,720
Jarace Walker $6,362,520
Isaiah Jackson $4,435,381
Ben Sheppard $2,663,880
Andrew Nembhard $2,019,699
Pascal Siakam $42,601,800
Free Agent $5,500,000
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824

Nik Stauskas Dead Cap $702,310
Juwan Morgan Dead Cap $576,229
Malik Fitts Dead Cap $555,216

Total Salary $172,516,551
Cap Space -$30,516,551
Tax Space $83,449
1st Apron Space $7,083,449
2nd Apron Space $17,583,449

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:08 am
by NYG
Jimmy Butler $48,798,677
Bam Adebayo $34,848,340
T.J. McConnell $9,300,000
Terry Rozier $24,924,126
Duncan Robinson $19,406,000
Kevin Love $4,027,525
Jaime Jaquez Jr. $3,685,800
Josh Richardson $3,051,153
Thomas Bryant $2,845,342
Nikola Jovic $2,464,200
Jalen Smith $12,500,000
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824
15th Overall Pick $4,274,280

Total Salary $172,463,091
Cap Space -$30,463,091
Tax Space $136,909
1st Apron Space $7,136,909
2nd Apron Space $17,636,909

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:11 pm
by NYG
NYG wrote:Tyrese Haliburton $35,250,000
Myles Turner $19,928,500
Aaron Nesmith $11,000,000
Tyle Herro $29,000,000
Bennedict Mathurin $7,245,720
Jarace Walker $6,362,520
Isaiah Jackson $4,435,381
Ben Sheppard $2,663,880
Andrew Nembhard $2,019,699
Pascal Siakam $42,601,800
Free Agent $5,500,000
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824
Minimum $1,168,824

Nik Stauskas Dead Cap $702,310
Juwan Morgan Dead Cap $576,229
Malik Fitts Dead Cap $555,216

Total Salary $172,516,551
Cap Space -$30,516,551
Tax Space $83,449
1st Apron Space $7,083,449
2nd Apron Space $17,583,449



Scoot McGroot wrote:.


What do you have as the empty roster spot cap hold for 2024-25?

How much will a minimum salary count for against the cap?

Is the above correct?

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:33 pm
by BBallFreak
I don't see this for Miami at all. Why would we give a future first for this? Hell, even having it tied up until 2030 is a negative for us.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:26 am
by Hoops23
Its a big no for Miami, even without that 2030 FRP.
Its the Heat who needs to be compensated.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:58 pm
by Scoot McGroot
BBallFreak wrote:I don't see this for Miami at all. Why would we give a future first for this? Hell, even having it tied up until 2030 is a negative for us.



Also, Miami probably would have issues being hard capped at the first apron by receiving a player via sign and trade, no?

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:18 am
by NYG
BBallFreak wrote:I don't see this for Miami at all. Why would we give a future first for this? Hell, even having it tied up until 2030 is a negative for us.


What about 15 and Herro for 31 and Poeltl? Gets Miami outright below the tax.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:40 am
by Mr Swagtastic
NYG wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I don't see this for Miami at all. Why would we give a future first for this? Hell, even having it tied up until 2030 is a negative for us.


What about 15 and Herro for 31 and Poeltl? Gets Miami outright below the tax.
I guess it depends whose there at #15 and how Toronto feels about Herro mainly his deal and fit with Quickley. If Eddy is there and Toronto got #1 or #2 and took Sarr maybe I could see them taking a flyer on Herro. If they give San Antonio their pick this year I don't see why Toronto moves Poeltl and #31 just to get another mid pick. They need a C after this unless they want to play Boucher and Olynik and tank for Bailey or Flagg

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:05 am
by BBallFreak
NYG wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I don't see this for Miami at all. Why would we give a future first for this? Hell, even having it tied up until 2030 is a negative for us.


What about 15 and Herro for 31 and Poeltl? Gets Miami outright below the tax.

I don't see why we'd do that, either. I believe Herro should probably have enough value that we don't have to drop in the draft to make it happen.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:18 am
by Skybox
Am I missing something? Does Herro suck? Why why why would MIA add a pick or even entertain this?

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:23 pm
by Hoops23
Skybox wrote:Am I missing something? Does Herro suck? Why why why would MIA add a pick or even entertain this?

Because NYG hate the Heat. Not a surprise to see a bad trade for Miami.

Re: Herro to the Pacers

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:16 am
by basketballwacko2
NYG wrote:Tyler Herro and Lottery Protected Miami Heat 2030 First Round Draft Pick (obligation extinguished if not conveyed) for T.J. McConnell and Jalen Smith (signed and traded to a 4 year contract starting at $12.5 Million)

-After losing Buddy Hield at the trade deadline (and McConnell in this trade plus possibly McDermott), this gives the Pacers a nice shooter off the bench to mix it up with their guard rotation for essentially T.J. McConnell and a guy they would lose anyway in free agency in Smith plus they potentially get a first round pick.

-If Miami had a 14-man roster with three two-way players, they would be under the tax outright with this move while retaining Bam/Jimmy plus Jovic/JJJ/15th Overall. McConnell is a nice veteran piece of the bench that should be a nice fit with the culture and Smith would be a nice compliment to Bam.


A bench player making $29 million next season.