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He is really making the case.

This seems pretty easy

Yes! Stud

There is no universe where Philly doesn't offer that on the first day of free agency.

What he makes all NBA, do PHI give the supermax?

Top 30-40 players make this, yes.

Fairly straightforward.

Easy yes with a PO on the 5th year.

Mr Peanut wrote:There is no universe where Philly doesn't offer that on the first day of free agency.

For cap space reasons they'll want to not officially offer this until they've used their cap space this summer. But everyone will know that it's getting offered.

so on draft night I said the Sixers made a mistake and should have drafted Tyrell Terry(so was doubly pleased when the little Mavs then did draft Terry). I'm pretty good at identifying NBA talent I think.....

And yes, easy call to max him right out the gate.

If the Sixers are dumb enough to not offer him the max someone else absolutely will. So yes.

Yeah, the only way he doesn’t get a true max is if he isn’t willing to wait for Morey’s cap games and signs an offer sheet. Then Philly still matches and he costs himself some money..

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, the only way he doesn’t get a true max is if he isn’t willing to wait for Morey’s cap games and signs an offer sheet. Then Philly still matches and he costs himself some money..

just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

HornetJail wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, the only way he doesn’t get a true max is if he isn’t willing to wait for Morey’s cap games and signs an offer sheet. Then Philly still matches and he costs himself some money..

just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

jayjaysee wrote:

HornetJail wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, the only way he doesn’t get a true max is if he isn’t willing to wait for Morey’s cap games and signs an offer sheet. Then Philly still matches and he costs himself some money..

just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

He more than makes those 3% raise/yr back by getting an earlier supermax extension if he can make all nba. But i agree with you he should take the guranteed 5 yr max now

jayjaysee wrote:

HornetJail wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, the only way he doesn’t get a true max is if he isn’t willing to wait for Morey’s cap games and signs an offer sheet. Then Philly still matches and he costs himself some money..

just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

Rapcity_11 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:

HornetJail wrote:just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

I mean if he says to Philly I'm going to sign an offer sheet with Detroit and make sure they make it as team unfriendly as possible, they would.

But he's not going to do that. He's going to take a 4+1 with Philly that will be agreed to and then completed once Philly does other business. Fun to talk in theory, but he's getting the most money he can and Philly is getting the most years.

Texas Chuck wrote:

Rapcity_11 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:
If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

I mean if he says to Philly I'm going to sign an offer sheet with Detroit and make sure they make it as team unfriendly as possible, they would.

But he's not going to do that. He's going to take a 4+1 with Philly that will be agreed to and then completed once Philly does other business. Fun to talk in theory, but he's getting the most money he can and Philly is getting the most years.

+1

Don't forget this Maxey's first big contract. He's going to want to lock in as much guaranteed money (to him at least) as possible.

Rapcity_11 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:

HornetJail wrote:just brainstorming- if he signs a 3+1 with another team and gets matched, goes on to have a couple all-NBA seasons, is he then eligible to sign a 35% supermax extension in 2026-27? the projected cap for 2027 is $188M that year, and the 35% max would be 5/$382M.

If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

So in the hypothetical that he wants the 3 and 1.. if Philly refuses to give him that.. A handful of teams will give him that, and Philly will match. And all that will have happened is you slightly annoyed a star and an agent, I guess?

I agree Philly really pushes for the true max and hopes they can avoid the fifth year player option.

But the only reason he’s not already on that contract, is Philly and him have some sort of understanding of keeping the option to retool in free agency open. So he’ll wait and get his max.

I think we all are agreeing he’s worth a max and Philly gives it to him.. Just a very unlikely hypothetical was presented..

jayjaysee wrote:

Rapcity_11 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:
If that’s what he wants, Philly will give him a 3 year max with a player option with 8 percent raises instead of 5.

There’s no way you tell him to go get an offer like he’s Ayton… They only didn’t lock him up because there’s a Paul George (or outside shot at Pascal etc) out there..

If he is impatient, he only costs himself money really. Even if he wants to bet on himself getting a super max as you painted, it still costs him those 3 years..

There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

So in the hypothetical that he wants the 3 and 1.. if Philly refuses to give him that.. A handful of teams will give him that, and Philly will match. And all that will have happened is you slightly annoyed a star and an agent, I guess?

I agree Philly really pushes for the true max and hopes they can avoid the fifth year player option.

But the only reason he’s not already on that contract, is Philly and him have some sort of understanding of keeping the option to retool in free agency open. So he’ll wait and get his max.

I think we all are agreeing he’s worth a max and Philly gives it to him.. Just a very unlikely hypothetical was presented..

I don't even think a handful of teams would offer him a 3+1. Why would teams with cap-space waste valuable time on a 0% outcome? Like, the Pistons need to focus on their team, not signing pointless offer sheets.

And no, screwing up Philly's cap-space plans by making them act sooner and/or giving Maxey the chance to get out of Philly one year sooner isn't a reason to do it either.

The bottom line is that if for whatever reason Maxey wants a 3+1, Philly wouldn't offer it. They would 100% hold out for 5 years or worst case a 4+1.

Rapcity_11 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:

Rapcity_11 wrote:
There's no way Philly agrees to only 3 guaranteed years. He's either getting a 5 years max or a 4+1.

So in the hypothetical that he wants the 3 and 1.. if Philly refuses to give him that.. A handful of teams will give him that, and Philly will match. And all that will have happened is you slightly annoyed a star and an agent, I guess?

I agree Philly really pushes for the true max and hopes they can avoid the fifth year player option.

But the only reason he’s not already on that contract, is Philly and him have some sort of understanding of keeping the option to retool in free agency open. So he’ll wait and get his max.

I think we all are agreeing he’s worth a max and Philly gives it to him.. Just a very unlikely hypothetical was presented..

I don't even think a handful of teams would offer him a 3+1. Why would teams with cap-space waste valuable time on a 0% outcome? Like, the Pistons need to focus on their team, not signing pointless offer sheets.

And no, screwing up Philly's cap-space plans by making them act sooner and/or giving Maxey the chance to get out of Philly one year sooner isn't a reason to do it either.

The bottom line is that if for whatever reason Maxey wants a 3+1, Philly wouldn't offer it. They would 100% hold out for 5 years or worst case a 4+1.

You seem very confident in this hypothetical scenario...

But teams do offer max contracts to players even when their current teams float they will match any contract..