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New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 am
by Godaddycurse
Assumption: IH gets stolen in FA

New York trade: Bogdanovic, MIL LP 2025 1st (becomes BRK 2025 2nd and NYK 2027 2nd if not conveyed)
Toronto trade: Poeltl

Why for NY: add a starting C to replace IH
Why for Toronto: get a 1st for Poeltl and tank for flagg

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:34 am
by Mr Swagtastic
Not a bad trade, I wonder if Toronto keeps Bojan at all or potentially moves him at the deadline for a second and redemption prospect? Somehow I believe NY spends to keep the team especially if they miss out on Mitchell

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:13 am
by daoneandonly
Makes sense if they lose Isaiah, I can see both teams doing it. But how will Tor address the 5?

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:20 am
by Godaddycurse
daoneandonly wrote:Makes sense if they lose Isaiah, I can see both teams doing it. But how will Tor address the 5?


Sign a stopgap like JV i guess.. and/or draft edey or something

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:52 pm
by Texas Chuck
Godaddycurse wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Makes sense if they lose Isaiah, I can see both teams doing it. But how will Tor address the 5?


Sign a stopgap like JV i guess.. and/or draft edey or something


If the plan is to tank, Olynyk and any min center is fine.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:14 pm
by Residual-Heat
The Raptors will be competing for the worst record in the league next season with a 4th year Barnes about to get a max, 25 mill/yr RJ, IQ who will be making like 20-25 mill/yr and 20 mill/yr Bogdanovic? They really shouldnt be that bad.

Value seems okay though

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:58 pm
by oldncreaky
Residual-Heat wrote:The Raptors will be competing for the worst record in the league next season with a 4th year Barnes about to get a max, 25 mill/yr RJ, IQ who will be making like 20-25 mill/yr and 20 mill/yr Bogdanovic? They really shouldnt be that bad.

Value seems okay though


Good point. If this trade leaves them with Olynyk/Barnes/Barrett/Dick/IQ and a playable bench it's hard to see them out-tanking the Pistons, Wizards and whoever gets hit with a slew of injuries

I think Toronto has gotten itself into a situation in which they're too good to tank hard, but will struggle to make the play-in and don't have any high-lotto picks in their future. Their path will mostly be determined by the players on their roster, especially Barnes.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 5:07 pm
by Residual-Heat
oldncreaky wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:The Raptors will be competing for the worst record in the league next season with a 4th year Barnes about to get a max, 25 mill/yr RJ, IQ who will be making like 20-25 mill/yr and 20 mill/yr Bogdanovic? They really shouldnt be that bad.

Value seems okay though


Good point. If this trade leaves them with Olynyk/Barnes/Barrett/Dick/IQ and a playable bench it's hard to see them out-tanking the Pistons, Wizards and whoever gets hit with a slew of injuries

I think Toronto has gotten itself into a situation in which they're too good to tank hard, but will struggle to make the play-in and don't have any high-lotto picks in their future. Their path will mostly be determined by the players on their roster, especially Barnes.

Good news is Masai was able to draft guys like OG and Siakam late in the first round, so maybe he'll be able to grab another star without a high lotto pick.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 5:36 pm
by Knickfan1982
Godaddycurse wrote:Assumption: IH gets stolen in FA

New York trade: Bogdanovic, MIL LP 2025 1st (becomes BRK 2025 2nd and NYK 2027 2nd if not conveyed)
Toronto trade: Poeltl

Why for NY: add a starting C to replace IH
Why for Toronto: get a 1st for Poeltl and tank for flagg



I'd be fine with this deal for the Knicks.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:47 pm
by WhatsaTDot
I like it for both. With a balanced starting 5, the Raptors looked adequate. Bad place to be for them.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:52 am
by Johnston
I don't think value is that far off, but for franchise optics alone there is no chance Raps make this trade. Wait atleast a year before you trade Poetl for pennies on the dollar (of what they paid).

Also, if raps are sold on a core of Quickly/RJ/Barnes there is no chance they are going to bottom out. When the whole team was together, they actually looked OK. There were very few games played with everyone healthy.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 2:04 am
by MessiahUjiri
Makes sense for NYK, but seems like an embarrassing deal for Masai. He may not recuperate the overpayment for Poeltl, but this just seems too low.

The Milwaukee pick might be a borderline 2nd, if things go right for the Bucks.

This is more palatable by including the protected Detroit or Washington picks, which probably won’t convey until 2027.

Re: New York - Toronto

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 4:43 pm
by wegotthabeet
make it the better of NYK's 2025 or MIL's.