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Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:19 pm
by louc1970
Grizzlies send Kennard/Clarke
Grizzlies receive Collins
Collins plays a small ball 5, shoots will from outside, can play next to JJJ.

Spurs send Johnson
Spurs receive Clarke/Kennard
Spurs get off the 3 years of Johnson, for the 3 less expensive years of Clarke.

Jazz send Collins
Jazz receive Johnson
Jazz save money going from Collins to Jazz. Johnson gives a SF which balances the team better than Collins.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:29 pm
by SkyHook
I know that he isn't held in high regard here, but I think that I'd rather keep Collins than trade him for Keldon.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:38 pm
by psman2
Collins is negative impact guy being paid near twice what he should. I value Clarke and Kennard more than him easily.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:47 pm
by Texas Chuck
psman2 wrote:Collins is negative impact guy being paid near twice what he should. I value Clarke and Kennard more than him easily.


Or just Clarke really since Kennard might not even be picked up. I'm not crazy about depending on Clarke, but I'm definitely not interested in swapping him for John Collins who gives me more availability probably but just isn't really what good teams want.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:49 pm
by SkyHook
psman2 wrote:Collins is negative impact guy being paid near twice what he should. I value Clarke and Kennard more than him easily.


I don't disagree with this either.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:55 pm
by psman2
Texas Chuck wrote:
psman2 wrote:Collins is negative impact guy being paid near twice what he should. I value Clarke and Kennard more than him easily.


Or just Clarke really since Kennard might not even be picked up. I'm not crazy about depending on Clarke, but I'm definitely not interested in swapping him for John Collins who gives me more availability probably but just isn't really what good teams want.


Right....nothing is better than Collins with our cap sheet and team needs.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:00 pm
by Texas Chuck
psman2 wrote:Right....nothing is better than Collins with our cap sheet and team needs.


Yeah Dallas has been probably the most RealGM named destination for Collins over the years and I think okay Jones might get an MLE deal and Dallas loses him and Kleber just can't be counted to stay healthy and so why not just do THJ/Powell for him to help fill backup 4 and small ball 5, and then I'm just like why am I wishing this on myself lol.

And that's with it working much better capwise for Dallas since they are likely to play between the tax line and the 2nd apron. Whereas Memphis should duck tax one more year unless they can add a real stud.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:07 pm
by jayjaysee
I’m very low on Keldon.

But if SAS does their deal.. Memphis takes Keldon here, right? Trade Z Williams and Konchar for a rotation big, duck the tax and hope Keldon bounces back..

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:12 pm
by esvl
jayjaysee wrote:I’m very low on Keldon.

But if SAS does their deal.. Memphis takes Keldon here, right? Trade Z Williams and Konchar for a rotation big, duck the tax and hope Keldon bounces back..


Keldon is not a Memphis guy either. Clarke is clearly above him in terms of the skillset Memphis appreciates.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:16 pm
by psman2
jayjaysee wrote:I’m very low on Keldon.

But if SAS does their deal.. Memphis takes Keldon here, right? Trade Z Williams and Konchar for a rotation big, duck the tax and hope Keldon bounces back..


I guess I am even lower on Keldon. I have never liked him and think the evaluations here on him for years now have been way off. Easily keep Clarke, we like Clarke, not sure why a lot of poster think we want off him. Now that we have some game tape after the injury I firmly have him in our rotation next year.

Re: Spurs/Grizzlies/Jazz

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:01 am
by wemby
Keldon has paid the price of playing in a discombobulated Spurs team for the last couple of seasons, just keep him and once the team makes sense he'll look much better. Same goes for Vassell.