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Thought exercise.

Assuming Presti loves someone at #1 - all 4 rookie contract years - next to Chet. And Jalen becomes his main dish, centerpiece to acquire #1 (assuming we aren’t quantity stacking the endless assets Presti has).

Who has more trade value? Jalen Williams vs. 2024 #1 overall.

A LOT = few picks to close the value gap or really nice player (which gets real subjective since not all picks are created equal).

A LITTLE = one 1st, probably not premium level draft asset, to close the value gap.

I don't see OKC trading Williams for #1. But if OKC was trying to deal for a star and was willing to include Williams, I think washing him for #1 overall would be preferred for most teams trading a star. Though Atlanta should have no interest. And all of that stuff matters more than just who has more value in theory. You have to have the trades make sense for the teams involved.

All depends on the team but the extra years of control have me tilted towards #1 overall

Texas Chuck wrote:I don't see OKC trading Williams for #1. But if OKC was trying to deal for a star and was willing to include Williams, I think washing him for #1 overall would be preferred for most teams trading a star. Though Atlanta should have no interest. And all of that stuff matters more than just who has more value in theory. You have to have the trades make sense for the teams involved.

And how does Jalen Williams not make sense for Atlanta?

I mean he fits straight up:
Capela | Okongwu
Johnson | Okongwu
Williams | Hunter
Murray | BB
Trae | Bufkin

Or better yet, he fits so well, makes the “to trade Murray or Trae Young” decision clearer. Jalen Williams fits well with either of those guards. With the ‘other’ guard fetching additional piece to core.

Might work for both but I doubt OKC gives up JWill now. Still, Chet/Sarr would be interesting.

I can see jalen williams making multiple all star games in his career/near future. Cant say the same for #1 of this draft.

Godaddycurse wrote:I can see jalen williams making multiple all star games in his career/near future. Cant say the same for #1 of this draft.

I could see it, but it would require another big leap at age 23+ and he has less control.

I don't think OKC should trade Jdub for #1, but I also don't think teams at the top of the lottery should trade #1 for Jdub.

Colbinii wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:I can see jalen williams making multiple all star games in his career/near future. Cant say the same for #1 of this draft.

I could see it, but it would require another big leap at age 23+ and he has less control.

I don't think OKC should trade Jdub for #1, but I also don't think teams at the top of the lottery should trade #1 for Jdub.

I don’t know. If Hawks love Jalen Williams fit with Trae (and Jalen Johnson), timeline fit is better and lower risk for the proven young player still on rookie deal.

Murray + #1 for Jalen Williams + #12

Seems very close. Maybe Presti adds a meh owed 1st or back of rotation type player.

If Murray | SGA doesn’t work, plenty of third teams out there who would want Murray and give Presti something he really wants (Ingram from Pels? Vassell or Keldon Johnson+ from Spurs? etc.).

Sarr
Chet
Dort
Murray
SGA

OR

Sarr
Chet
Ingram
Dort
SGA

OR

Sarr
Chet
Dort
Vassell
SGA

Texas Chuck wrote:I don't see OKC trading Williams for #1. But if OKC was trying to deal for a star and was willing to include Williams, I think washing him for #1 overall would be preferred for most teams trading a star. Though Atlanta should have no interest. And all of that stuff matters more than just who has more value in theory. You have to have the trades make sense for the teams involved.

Agreed. There's no blue book or any precise formula for these transactions. A lot of subjectivity based upon numerous factors.

Williams is way more valuable than the first pick in this draft.

Colbinii wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:I can see jalen williams making multiple all star games in his career/near future. Cant say the same for #1 of this draft.

I could see it, but it would require another big leap at age 23+ and he has less control.

I don't think OKC should trade Jdub for #1, but I also don't think teams at the top of the lottery should trade #1 for Jdub.

no it'd just require OKC to repeat as 1st seed and be on pace for 60+ wins. Coaches will vote in a 2nd player for OKC to make the all star team. His counting stats just need a mild uptake to get in that way (ie jaylen brown & boston, or middleton on the bucks before)

Godaddycurse wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:I can see jalen williams making multiple all star games in his career/near future. Cant say the same for #1 of this draft.

I could see it, but it would require another big leap at age 23+ and he has less control.

I don't think OKC should trade Jdub for #1, but I also don't think teams at the top of the lottery should trade #1 for Jdub.

no it'd just require OKC to repeat as 1st seed and be on pace for 60+ wins. Coaches will vote in a 2nd player for OKC to make the all star team. His counting stats just need a mild uptake to get in that way (ie jaylen brown & boston, or middleton on the bucks before)

I think its possible Chet gets seen as the 2nd best player on OKC sooner rather than later (Assuming they make no big addition which isn't that safe). It's close but most of the impact stats already favor Chet and he feels like he a much bigger upside to tap into.

That's not to say you are wrong about his potential or his worth. I'm not as bullish on him as a future star, but I see him as a quality starter for a long time. Which is why I have OKC turning down #1 for him, but Atlanta not offering it. Unlike Wolveswin I don't see him as a great fit with Jalen/Trae

Atlanta would do the swap, but OKC wouldn’t IMO.

And the players that OKC would need to include Jalen in a trade for, would likely prefer Jalen over number 1.. Sixers, Bucks, etc aren’t going to want to do a quick tank rebuild and would take the safer floor? (Yes, Presti could offer 15 firsts for Joel, but just saying..)