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HOUSTON
In: Ivey/5
Out:#3/#44+2 future SRP

Houston moves down a couple spots to select a guy more ready to help like Knech and gets a young guard prospect with upside who needs a fresh start...2 players who should be ready to help from day one

Sengun/Adams
J.Smith/Eason
Brooks/Whitmore
Green/(Knech)
FVV/Ivey

PISTONS
In:#3/44/2 SRP futures
Out:#5/Ivey

The Pistons move up in the draft to get the best wing available (Risacher) and gain a few assets in the process at the expense of Ivey.

Duren/Wiseman?
FA /Stewart
Risacher/Fontecchio
Thompson/Grimes
Cade/Sasser

I don't value Ivey at all.

Make it Ausar, and you might be on to something.

Or if you route Ivey somewhere else for another pick.

I cannot really see a team wanting to try to continue develop both Ivey and Jalen Green at the same time. I would pass for Houston and just make my pick, trade out, or trade down for different incentive than Ivey....like what is the best pick Ivey can land and then revaluate the offer...future pick likely better to keep the asset alive.

Don't see Houston all that interested in Ivey

LarsV8 wrote:I don't value Ivey at all.

Make it Ausar, and you might be on to something.

Or if you route Ivey somewhere else for another pick.

I get not wanting Ivey, especially since you already have Green.

Ausar and 5 for 3 and change is a laugher though.

Was might have more interest.
Ivey, 5, second for 2?

Ivey is a bad fit in Houston with Green and Whitmore so there’s no point for them and this is bad value for Detroit to jump 2 spots in a draft where no one knows how to value basically anyone from 2 to 10.

You spend real assets to jump up into a different tier. Who is Detroit taking at 3 anyways?? No one knows. There like 5 guys they might take even if they were #2. So a couple of them are guaranteed to be there at #5, and you’ll get them on a cheaper contract.

LarsV8 wrote:I don't value Ivey at all.

Make it Ausar, and you might be on to something.

Or if you route Ivey somewhere else for another pick.

Would the Spurs get in on the action ?

hold on need to reorganize it.

DET sends
#5 to HOU
Ivey to SAS

DET receives
#3, #44 & 2 SRPs & Tate from HOU
2025 NOLA 2nd (unprot.) via SAS


HOU sends
#3 & Tate to DET

HOU receives
#5 from DET
#35 from SAS
2025 CHI 1st (1-10 prot)


SAS sends
#35 to HOU
2025 CHI 1st (1-10 prot) to HOU
2025 NOLA 2nd (unprot.) to DET

SAS receives
Ivey

Clav wrote:SAS sends
#35 to HOU
2025 CHI 1st (1-10 prot) to HOU
2025 NOLA 2nd (unprot.) to DET

SAS receives
Ivey

Spurs aren't giving up a projected lottery pick in '25 (or '26) in order to help the Pistons get their likely preferred target.

Xman wrote:Was might have more interest.
Ivey, 5, second for 2?

This is the obvious answer. If Pistons want to move up for Risacher using Ivey, Wizards are the target, not the Rockets.

SRPs are like pocket change. The odds of getting anything meaningful from them are slim.

Ausar could be DPOY someday. Not using him as a throw in. If Pistons can’t get any real value for Ivey, they are better off keeping him and hope he improves.

Already mentioned, but moving around in this draft is pointless. Pistons drafting at 5 could pick from a lot of possibilities. So trading a recent top 5 pick to move up two spots in a weak draft? Easy pass.

No for Ivey.

I am sure that the Rockets will ask about Ausur this off-season, but this framework of a trade doesn’t work.

[quote="Kiss of Death"]No for Ivey.

I am sure that the Rockets will ask about Ausur this off-season, but this framework of a trade doesn’t work.[/quote]
Shouldn’t Detroit be trying to get Amen?
Cade/Amen/Ausur would be terrific at everything but shooting.

This isn't the draft to go all in on for the pistons. From #2 on, there is no clear ranking. Obviously individual teams have their favorites, but that would be really bad asset management.

And ivey doesn't fit in houston anyway.

Xman wrote:Was might have more interest.
Ivey, 5, second for 2?

Yea, I'm thinking the Wizards would be more interested if they don't love anyone at #2.

[quote="TGW"][quote="Xman"]Was might have more interest.
Ivey, 5, second for 2?[/quote]

Yea, I'm thinking the Wizards would be more interested if they don't love anyone at #2.[/quote]
Clingan should be there and seems perfect for Washington.

Xman wrote:

Kiss of Death wrote:No for Ivey.

I am sure that the Rockets will ask about Ausur this off-season, but this framework of a trade doesn’t work.

Shouldn’t Detroit be trying to get Amen?
Cade/Amen/Ausur would be terrific at everything but shooting.

Amen and Ausar are ironically a horrible fit together in today's NBA. One of them needs to become a shooter or you basically can't put them on the same team.

We (and no team) would give up an asset to move from 5 to 3 in this draft. The guy we would take at 3 is most likely the guy there at 5 (or at least someone from the same tier). The 44th pick and the two future second rounders don't have much sway.

Mr Peanut wrote:We (and no team) would give up an asset to move from 5 to 3 in this draft. The guy we would take at 3 is most likely the guy there at 5 (or at least someone from the same tier). The 44th pick and the two future second rounders don't have much sway.

I think teams will still be willing to move up in this draft lottery, but not at the typical cost associated with that type of move. If Ivey is only worth a late 1st in this draft then that would be consider on the lower end of the typical cost. If Det values him higher or can get a better than anticipated return then the odds are the move up is not going to be deemed worth it.

It would likely be a on the clock move with Det wanting the guy at 3 and has him either at top of their tier or a tier ahead. Risacher is the only guy I think might be like that for some teams. IMO I don't see a guy worth paying a ton for and would be willing to let the draft come to me.

psman2 wrote:

Mr Peanut wrote:We (and no team) would give up an asset to move from 5 to 3 in this draft. The guy we would take at 3 is most likely the guy there at 5 (or at least someone from the same tier). The 44th pick and the two future second rounders don't have much sway.

I think teams will still be willing to move up in this draft lottery, but not at the typical cost associated with that type of move. If Ivey is only worth a late 1st in this draft then that would be consider on the lower end of the typical cost. If Det values him higher or can get a better than anticipated return then the odds are the move up is not going to be deemed worth it.

It would likely be a on the clock move with Det wanting the guy at 3 and has him either at top of their tier or a tier ahead. Risacher is the only guy I think might be like that for some teams. IMO I don't see a guy worth paying a ton for and would be willing to let the draft come to me.

Agreed that if there is a guy available a few spots higher who a team really wants and they consider in a different tier, and they know that player won't be available at their draft position, then there could be some movement. In this scenario, Ivey had an underwhelming second season but I'm not ready to give up on a guy who was selected at #5 himself only two years ago. If he stops getting jerked around by Monty and works on his defense then he's a much more valuable asset than that.