Cavs - Nets

[bgrep14]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

[toooskies]

I don't hate it for the Cavs-- it leans into the construction that the Cavs won with while Garland and Mobley were out. I might ask for more than one pick, but probably wouldn't get it after the season Garland had.

Not a great upside deal for the Cavs, but it's at least mostly player value coming back.

[jbk1234]

I'm a hard pass on this. I'm bringing him back before I do this.

[JKiddy]

The future first is lottery protected right?

Garland is owed how much left on his deal?

[One_and_Done]

Nets would be keen. Dunno how likely the Cavs are to do it.

[axeman23]

Mitchell is the deal with Brooklyn. Always HAS been, and gets the Cavs more in return also.

[drchaos]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

[BK_2020]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

He's on a 25% max. In an NBA where Jaylen Brown is getting paid a 35% max and contending teams have payrolls that are 130-150% of the cap. You can fit 7 Darius Garlands into the Suns' payroll next year. All that to say his contract is pretty modest and what you expect to pay for someone of Garland's calibre.
Of course that's a problem of sorts, since the 1st extension post-rookie scale should ideally be a bargain.

[Colbinii]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

No it isn't.

[DowJones]

Easy no for Cleveland.

[Iwasawitness]

I'll always say it: Unless Bridges is involved, I don't want any trades involved with Brooklyn. With that said, this one isn't bad, but just want more.

[jbk1234]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

It's a rookie max or 25% of last seasons cap and limtited to 8% raises. Vet max contracts range between 30-35%. The Cavs really need to bring him back for another season, let him play healthy, and have the new TV deal kick in.

Either that or they need to find a forward looking GM in a trade partner.

[tidho]

Garland is getting the current rookie max. This is exactly what every guy coming off their rooking contract at fringe all-star level is going to be getting paid.

[vincecarter4pres]

If Mitchell is off the table I like it for the Nets.

[toooskies]

I'll always say it: Unless Bridges is involved, I don't want any trades involved with Brooklyn. With that said, this one isn't bad, but just want more.

If Bridges gets traded he's going to Houston so the Nets can get their draft picks back. That's the first deal that makes sense if he's available and both teams should be interested. Houston was reportedly interested in that kind of deal at the trade deadline.

[drchaos]

Cavs: Garland and Niang

Nets: Johnson, DFS, and Nets choice of either Clowney/Thomas/future 1st.

Nets get a young PG on the same contract length and age to build with Bridges

Cavs: Improve wing depth they currently lack.

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

It's a rookie max or 25% of last seasons cap and limtited to 8% raises. Vet max contracts range between 30-35%. The Cavs really need to bring him back for another season, let him play healthy, and have the new TV deal kick in.

Either that or they need to find a forward looking GM in a trade partner.

The Nets will be looking to get under the cap to sign a Max free agent next year.

Does Garland help them at this point?

[jbk1234]

I get that Garland is a young guy but that contract is huge for a non-superstar.

It's a rookie max or 25% of last seasons cap and limtited to 8% raises. Vet max contracts range between 30-35%. The Cavs really need to bring him back for another season, let him play healthy, and have the new TV deal kick in.

Either that or they need to find a forward looking GM in a trade partner.

The Nets will be looking to get under the cap to sign a Max free agent next year.

Does Garland help them at this point?

If they prefer not to suck hard the season before their big recruiting summer, YES! Watching fans of teams who are currently sorry nit pick a really, really good young player is remarkable. I've got Spurs fans telling me they can just draft a PG at 8 to fill their needs as if that how it works. A team's needs have zero impact on a prospect's capabilities or ceiling. That player either has it, or not.

If this board's sentiment is reflective of real life, and I'm very skeptical it is based on the reporting, the Cavs need to bring him back after he's put back on the weight he lost when his jaw was wired shut, and wait for the phone to ring when some of these there's no-rush teams have lost 10 of their last 12 on the first two months of the season.

[drchaos]

It's a rookie max or 25% of last seasons cap and limtited to 8% raises. Vet max contracts range between 30-35%. The Cavs really need to bring him back for another season, let him play healthy, and have the new TV deal kick in.

Either that or they need to find a forward looking GM in a trade partner.

The Nets will be looking to get under the cap to sign a Max free agent next year.

Does Garland help them at this point?

If they prefer not to suck hard the season before their big recruiting summer, YES! Watching fans of teams who are currently sorry nit pick a really, really good young player is remarkable. I've got Spurs fans telling me they can just draft a PG at 8 to fill their needs as if that how it works. A team's needs have zero impact on a prospect's capabilities or ceiling. That player either has it, or not.

If this board's sentiment is reflective of real life, and I'm very skeptical it is based on the reporting, the Cavs need to bring him back after he's put back on the weight he lost when his jaw was wired shut, and wait for the phone to ring when some of these there's no-rush teams have lost 10 of their last 12 on the first two months of the season.

If sucking next year is how the Nets win the first NBA Championship ever than I am willing to accept that price.

I did not criticize the player.

I expressed concerns about how the player would fit the Nets plans and salary cap situation.

Just because I am not sure that Garland the answer to all of the Nets problems does not mean that I do not like the player.

[giberish]

The Nets will be looking to get under the cap to sign a Max free agent next year.

Does Garland help them at this point?

If they prefer not to suck hard the season before their big recruiting summer, YES! Watching fans of teams who are currently sorry nit pick a really, really good young player is remarkable. I've got Spurs fans telling me they can just draft a PG at 8 to fill their needs as if that how it works. A team's needs have zero impact on a prospect's capabilities or ceiling. That player either has it, or not.

If this board's sentiment is reflective of real life, and I'm very skeptical it is based on the reporting, the Cavs need to bring him back after he's put back on the weight he lost when his jaw was wired shut, and wait for the phone to ring when some of these there's no-rush teams have lost 10 of their last 12 on the first two months of the season.

If sucking next year is how the Nets win the first NBA Championship ever than I am willing to accept that price.

I did not criticize the player.

I expressed concerns about how the player would fit the Nets plans and salary cap situation.

Just because I am not sure that Garland the answer to all of the Nets problems does not mean that I do not like the player.

The problem is that sucking hard is great if your plan is to draft guys. But it's a very unattractive look to prospective FA's. The elite guys really want a team that's shown competence.

[vincecarter4pres]

It's a rookie max or 25% of last seasons cap and limtited to 8% raises. Vet max contracts range between 30-35%. The Cavs really need to bring him back for another season, let him play healthy, and have the new TV deal kick in.

Either that or they need to find a forward looking GM in a trade partner.

The Nets will be looking to get under the cap to sign a Max free agent next year.

Does Garland help them at this point?

If they prefer not to suck hard the season before their big recruiting summer, YES! Watching fans of teams who are currently sorry nit pick a really, really good young player is remarkable. I've got Spurs fans telling me they can just draft a PG at 8 to fill their needs as if that how it works. A team's needs have zero impact on a prospect's capabilities or ceiling. That player either has it, or not.

If this board's sentiment is reflective of real life, and I'm very skeptical it is based on the reporting, the Cavs need to bring him back after he's put back on the weight he lost when his jaw was wired shut, and wait for the phone to ring when some of these there's no-rush teams have lost 10 of their last 12 on the first two months of the season.

At the same time, you don’t just desperately trade to fill a need at the stage a team like the Nets are in if you don’t 100% believe in that player for the long term.

I’m not saying they don’t believe in him, but you don’t necessarily mess up future flexibility for Mike Conley if you think there’s a real shot you’re getting Chris Paul a year later(Just an analogy), just because Conley is available and you can use an upgrade.