You are the GM of the Pistons...what would you do this offseason?

[Astaluego]

This series is not about what you think will happen or what the FO's ideas are... but rather about what you would do if you were in charge.
Let's start with the Detroit Pistons with a ton of cap space (around 62 million if I'm wrong) and picks 5 and 53...what would your plan be?

[Snakebites]

This series is not about what you think will happen or what the FO's ideas are... but rather about what you would do if you were in charge.
Let's start with the Detroit Pistons with a ton of cap space (around 50 million if I'm wrong) and picks 5 and 53...what would your plan be?

Pistons have 62 million in cap space.

I remain skeptical that they can use it all that effectively but that’s what it is.

[Skybox]

Sign Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva...then collect rings

[Astaluego]

This series is not about what you think will happen or what the FO's ideas are... but rather about what you would do if you were in charge.
Let's start with the Detroit Pistons with a ton of cap space (around 50 million if I'm wrong) and picks 5 and 53...what would your plan be?

Pistons have 62 million in cap space.

I remain skeptical that they can use it all that effectively but that’s what it is.

Thank you, I will edit it... I get confused about this all the time... feel free to make a projection of your ideas, I will personally be delighted to read you and find out what your famous people have in mind

[jayjaysee]

I really would shop Cade. This rebuild didn’t work out and I’d be okay with extending it..

I know most are open to pushing win now, but I wouldn’t. But you call OG first and hope he wants to average 20+ PPG and make a lot do money..

If you are, what does it cost to get the 2025 first from NYK?

The unprotected 2025 Detroit first is so much more valuable than the first NYK actually own in a follow up trade..

[Astaluego]

I really would shop Cade. This rebuild didn’t work out and I’d be okay with extending it..

I know most are open to pushing win now, but I wouldn’t. But you call OG first and hope he wants to average 20+ PPG and make a lot do money..

If you are, what does it cost to get the 2025 first from NYK?

The unprotected 2025 Detroit first is so much more valuable than the first NYK actually own in a follow up trade..

That selection wouldn't be too valuable for the Knicks, right? Sasser+SRP for the return selection?

[Billl]

I really would shop Cade. This rebuild didn’t work out and I’d be okay with extending it..

I know most are open to pushing win now, but I wouldn’t. But you call OG first and hope he wants to average 20+ PPG and make a lot do money..

If you are, what does it cost to get the 2025 first from NYK?

The unprotected 2025 Detroit first is so much more valuable than the first NYK actually own in a follow up trade..

The 2025 pick is lottery protected. then top 11 in 2026. then top 9 in 2027. and then converts to seconds. It would be nice for detroit to get that back for trading flexibility, but it's not conveying in 2025 unless the pistons are in the playoffs.

[TGW]

They should go after Giddey and Annunoby.

[balsamic_ducks]

I really would shop Cade. This rebuild didn’t work out and I’d be okay with extending it..

I know most are open to pushing win now, but I wouldn’t. But you call OG first and hope he wants to average 20+ PPG and make a lot do money..

If you are, what does it cost to get the 2025 first from NYK?

The unprotected 2025 Detroit first is so much more valuable than the first NYK actually own in a follow up trade..

agreed. It's year 4 of cade and they're still very far from being a good team. Hit reset now.

[jayjaysee]

What does Presti pay to get the right to swap the later of Denver/OKC 2025 first with Detroit’s 2025 first if not conveyed to NYK? You could word it that OKC gets the swap option in 2025 or 2026 pending the first conveying to NY… Now Detroit has a more tangible asset to combine with 5 in their desperation trade..

Or a more direct trade where Ainge gets to swap Cleveland/Minnesota 2025 and 2027 firsts into Detroit’s first “if not conveyed to NYK” in a Lauri trade. That is a ton of value added, right? Put some wording in it that if the first conveys to NYK, the swap is delayed a year? You could maybe do;

2025 Detroit first “14-30 protected” (if not conveyed unprotected 2026 first) and give Detroit “the later of Minn/Cleveland” firsts.. and have a really strong asset for Utah..

Or a similar idea with Ingram..

[jayjaysee]

I really would shop Cade. This rebuild didn’t work out and I’d be okay with extending it..

I know most are open to pushing win now, but I wouldn’t. But you call OG first and hope he wants to average 20+ PPG and make a lot do money..

If you are, what does it cost to get the 2025 first from NYK?

The unprotected 2025 Detroit first is so much more valuable than the first NYK actually own in a follow up trade..

The 2025 pick is lottery protected. then top 11 in 2026. then top 9 in 2027. and then converts to seconds. It would be nice for detroit to get that back for trading flexibility, but it's not conveying in 2025 unless the pistons are in the playoffs.

Yeah, I think I’d go the way I just posted instead of giving NYK much of anything to give the first back. It’s easy to work around it and NY only gets it if it’s a mid level asset anyways.

[SNPA]

Cade + 5 = ?

[jayjaysee]

Just bad ideas though.

[giberish]

What does Presti pay to get the right to swap the later of Denver/OKC 2025 first with Detroit’s 2025 first if not conveyed to NYK? You could word it that OKC gets the swap option in 2025 or 2026 pending the first conveying to NY… Now Detroit has a more tangible asset to combine with 5 in their desperation trade..

Or a more direct trade where Ainge gets to swap Cleveland/Minnesota 2025 and 2027 firsts into Detroit’s first “if not conveyed to NYK” in a Lauri trade. That is a ton of value added, right? Put some wording in it that if the first conveys to NYK, the swap is delayed a year? You could maybe do;

2025 Detroit first “14-30 protected” (if not conveyed unprotected 2026 first) and give Detroit “the later of Minn/Cleveland” firsts.. and have a really strong asset for Utah..

Or a similar idea with Ingram..

Detroit trading the upside of their own future 1sts would be unbelievably, inconceivably, disastrously stupid.

[theBigLip]

Draft Buzelis.
First calls are long shots to try and sign Siakam or OG.
Overpay to get Monk.
Get Oubre.
Get Miles Bridges.
Extend Fontecchio.
Extend Wiseman on very cheap deal.

3 new starters, lots of scoring depth.

Cade/Sasser
Monk/Ivey/Grimes
Fontecchio/Oubre/Buzelis
Bridges/Thompson
Duren/Stewart/Wiseman

[jbk1234]

I'm calling every 2nd apron team in the NBA and holding a reverse auction on the cap space.

Happy to absorb Grant, Herro, or Randle, but I wouldn't pay much, if anything, to do it

I'm not drafting another guard who can't shoot.

I'm listening if opposing teams ask about Cade, Ivey, Stewart, Duran, and Ausur. No one should be off limits if the value is right. The roster Weaver assembled is a crime, Cade only has a single season left on his rookie deal, and unless I can get one of those large salary guys for cheap, I'm open to trading him for solid value.

[jayjaysee]

What does Presti pay to get the right to swap the later of Denver/OKC 2025 first with Detroit’s 2025 first if not conveyed to NYK? You could word it that OKC gets the swap option in 2025 or 2026 pending the first conveying to NY… Now Detroit has a more tangible asset to combine with 5 in their desperation trade..

Or a more direct trade where Ainge gets to swap Cleveland/Minnesota 2025 and 2027 firsts into Detroit’s first “if not conveyed to NYK” in a Lauri trade. That is a ton of value added, right? Put some wording in it that if the first conveys to NYK, the swap is delayed a year? You could maybe do;

2025 Detroit first “14-30 protected” (if not conveyed unprotected 2026 first) and give Detroit “the later of Minn/Cleveland” firsts.. and have a really strong asset for Utah..

Or a similar idea with Ingram..

Detroit trading the upside of their own future 1sts would be unbelievably, inconceivably, disastrously stupid.

But trading number 5 and additional assets for Ingram or Lauri is a common thread?

If you’re doing that, why not keep “Thompson” and instead bet on yourself to be better in 2025?

[Snakebites]

I'm calling every 2nd apron team in the NBA and holding a reverse auction on the cap space.

Happy to absorb Grant, Herro, or Randle, but I wouldn't pay much, if anything, to do it

I'm not drafting another guard who can't shoot.

I'm listening if opposing teams ask about Cade, Ivey, Stewart, Duran, and Ausur. No one should be off limits if the value is right. The roster Weaver assembled is a crime, Cade only has a single season left on his rookie deal, and unless I can get one of those large salary guys for cheap, I'm open to trading him for solid value.

I think it was absolutely CRITICAL to get someone in here who doesn't have an ego-investment in any of our previous selections, because I 100% agree that everyone should be on the table.

And yeah- the team has been trying to sell fans on the idea that the new cap rules were going to be some huge boon for us as we sit with cap space. They better try to make good on that.

If this team doesn't look DRAMATICALLY different than it did last year I'm going to be pretty upset and I doubt I'm alone.

As for what I'd do:

1) Fire Weaver and Monty, the former no matter what, the latter if you can sell the owner on eating the salary.
2) Hire a young head coach- some up and coming guy with something to prove. No more mercenaries.
3) Call 2nd apron teams with cap space to see if you can pry some genuine talent away. Be willing to overpay salary wise if you can get personnel that fits well, particularly guys who can spread the floor. I absolutely agree that trades should be "plan A" for our cap space given the quality of the FA class.
4) CONSIDER trading the 5th pick. If you can't get value for it, either draft a defensive center (Clingan) and trade Duren or draft someone with an outside shot. That will probably depend on who falls in this unpredictable draft.
5) Don't actively shop Cade, Duren, or Ausar, but be open to it. It's unlikely we can get solid value for Ausar given his health scare, and Cade is probably the one guy you keep, but if someone offers a rich package for Cade I'd consider it. Starting our rebuild over with some draft capital is a viable option depending on what that capital actually is.
6) I'd be looking to deal Ivey and Stewart. I don't see them fitting with what we hope to do tbh.
7) Look for shooting on the free agent market, particularly at the 2 and 4 spots.
8) Resign Fontecchio.

[Residual-Heat]

Keep Cade.

I dont like the fit of some of their pieces, and they should be making win-now moves. Ivey probably gets traded. One of Duren/Ausar probably can be traded as well. Try to package Ivey, Duren/Ausar, 5th pick and maybe more for the best player you can get. If Lauri is willing to re-sign, he'd be a nice target for them.

Overpay vets like KCP or Tobias. Bring back Fontecchio. Maybe even overpay Nik Claxton/Hartenstein if Duren gets traded.

[AaronB]

The elephant in the room is CC.

CC is good enough to earn minutes on a good team, but his defense is in the bottom 4% of players earning major minutes.

Granted, CC is not a nondefensive unicorn like Simons of the Blazers, it is still bad enough that CC is not a lead piece in a rebuild.

Among the players from his draft class and those earning major minutes, CC ranks 9th in EPM.

I know Piston fans hate to hear that, but the numbers are the numbers.

I think it is still too early to give up on the guy, but the time of babying should be over and CC needs to become the all-round player he was projected to be,

Currently, in a redraft, CC would not go top 5 (Wagner, Suggs, Sengun, Barnes and Mobley) per EPM this last year and I would agree.