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Utah trade: Sexton
Utah receive: Giddey

OKC trade: Giddey
OKC receive: WCJ, DEN 2025 top 5 protected 1st

Orlando trade: WCJ, DEN 2025 top 5 protected 1st
Orlando receive: Sexton

Why for Utah: Giddey has more years of control and is younger
Why for OKC: add a stretch big
Why for Orlando: add a scoring guard

Okay, so people are really going to have to explain to me what Josh Giddey's upside is.

1. He can't score inside
2. He's slow with the ball
3. He can't defend
4. He's a below average shooter after years with the best shooting coach in NBA history and receiving zero defensive attention at any point.

How does this guy eventually become a good player.

I think it makes sense.

Not my first or favorite idea on a Giddey deal, but one I could maybe live with. Would think OKC could get a bit more.

WCJ and a (better) pick should get you both Sexton and Giddey...this trade buries ORL - unless they've gote Claxton's signature on the dotted line. I wouldn't trade Carter straight up for either of them.

I like it for UTA. Sexton has been putting up nice numbers in the "scorer's spot" in UTA, but I don't think he's really that good. Giddey can organize all of that loose young talent if UTA can put enough shooting around him. I find Giddey very intriguing but he's got very meaningful weaknesses too.

Would love to add Lauri to OKC by redirecting Dieng and picks to Utah here.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Would love to add Lauri to OKC by redirecting Dieng and picks to Utah here.

What unprotected picks does OKC own?

That is way too much going out of Orlando for Sexton lol

I'd rather keep Sexton.

Sexton is the best player here on a great contract, but gets the least back in value. Got it. Never change RealGMer’s.

This is a laugher.

I think the general idea is fine. I'd argue that Orlando adding the pick feels unnecessary and that all 3 players have similar trade value. In some sense Sexton is the best of the 3, but as a SG in a PG's body his position value is always going to be lower. He's a good fit for Orlando though (and IMO is a better fit than Monk or Simons who are both outright bad at defense). Of course Orlando would need to have a center plan outside of WCJ to do this but that wouldn't be a surprise.

There's also the Giddey trade value issue, which is a bit all over the place but probably about at this level.

giberish wrote:I think the general idea is fine. I'd argue that Orlando adding the pick feels unnecessary and that all 3 players have similar trade value. In some sense Sexton is the best of the 3, but as a SG in a PG's body his position value is always going to be lower. He's a good fit for Orlando though (and IMO is a better fit than Monk or Simons who are both outright bad at defense). Of course Orlando would need to have a center plan outside of WCJ to do this but that wouldn't be a surprise.

There's also the Giddey trade value issue, which is a bit all over the place but probably about at this level.

I have orlando getting the best player now, utah getting the player with highest upside and WCJ is who he is (5th starter) so Orlando owes some value

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Okay, so people are really going to have to explain to me what Josh Giddey's upside is.

1. He can't score inside
2. He's slow with the ball
3. He can't defend
4. He's a below average shooter after years with the best shooting coach in NBA history and receiving zero defensive attention at any point.

How does this guy eventually become a good player.

Legitimate PG skills with real SF size and only 21. And, he was a starter for the team that tied for the best record in the Western Conference. The downside is, of course, his shooting ability and he has limited team control remaining.

penbeast0 wrote:

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Okay, so people are really going to have to explain to me what Josh Giddey's upside is.

1. He can't score inside
2. He's slow with the ball
3. He can't defend
4. He's a below average shooter after years with the best shooting coach in NBA history and receiving zero defensive attention at any point.

How does this guy eventually become a good player.

Legitimate PG skills with real SF size and only 21. And, he was a starter for the team that tied for the best record in the Western Conference. The downside is, of course, his shooting ability and he has limited team control remaining.

team control is still plenty, its cost control thats limited. Sexton has only 2 yrs of team/cost control remaining then he's UFA, thats why i had them worth similarly in OP

Godaddycurse wrote:

giberish wrote:I think the general idea is fine. I'd argue that Orlando adding the pick feels unnecessary and that all 3 players have similar trade value. In some sense Sexton is the best of the 3, but as a SG in a PG's body his position value is always going to be lower. He's a good fit for Orlando though (and IMO is a better fit than Monk or Simons who are both outright bad at defense). Of course Orlando would need to have a center plan outside of WCJ to do this but that wouldn't be a surprise.

There's also the Giddey trade value issue, which is a bit all over the place but probably about at this level.

I have orlando getting the best player now, utah getting the player with highest upside and WCJ is who he is (5th starter) so Orlando owes some value

I don't see Sexton as really better than a 5th starter overall due to his profile as a PG sized SG. Not very many teams can really use guys like that so they generally aren't very valuable. I think Orlando can take advantage of their position as a team that can use someone like that (due to their playmaking at other positions) to get an addition at good value.

giberish wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

giberish wrote:I think the general idea is fine. I'd argue that Orlando adding the pick feels unnecessary and that all 3 players have similar trade value. In some sense Sexton is the best of the 3, but as a SG in a PG's body his position value is always going to be lower. He's a good fit for Orlando though (and IMO is a better fit than Monk or Simons who are both outright bad at defense). Of course Orlando would need to have a center plan outside of WCJ to do this but that wouldn't be a surprise.

There's also the Giddey trade value issue, which is a bit all over the place but probably about at this level.

I have orlando getting the best player now, utah getting the player with highest upside and WCJ is who he is (5th starter) so Orlando owes some value

I don't see Sexton as really better than a 5th starter overall due to his profile as a PG sized SG. Not very many teams can really use guys like that so they generally aren't very valuable. I think Orlando can take advantage of their position as a team that can use someone like that (due to their playmaking at other positions) to get an addition at good value.

Sexton proven he can be (at least) a 3rd option on offense though and his playmaking took a leap this year.

i do not see magic even trading wcj straight up for sexton..magic have a 6th man type short sg/pg in cole why make a whole at center?

orlando_joe wrote:i do not see magic even trading wcj straight up for sexton..magic have a 6th man type short sg/pg in cole why make a whole at center?

Sexton >> Anthony

Godaddycurse wrote:

giberish wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:I have orlando getting the best player now, utah getting the player with highest upside and WCJ is who he is (5th starter) so Orlando owes some value

I don't see Sexton as really better than a 5th starter overall due to his profile as a PG sized SG. Not very many teams can really use guys like that so they generally aren't very valuable. I think Orlando can take advantage of their position as a team that can use someone like that (due to their playmaking at other positions) to get an addition at good value.

Sexton proven he can be (at least) a 3rd option on offense though and his playmaking took a leap this year.

A 3rd option on offense may be a 5th starter quality player overall. Again, PG sized SG's are less valuable than their offense-creation ability would be by itself.

Neither Giddey nor Sexton are good fits for Orlando. They're much better of getting a real shooter.

I also have WCJ and that first as having the best trade value of all 3.

Godaddycurse wrote:

orlando_joe wrote:i do not see magic even trading wcj straight up for sexton..magic have a 6th man type short sg/pg in cole why make a whole at center?

Sexton >> Anthony

i dont disagree...but not worth a first and wcj better..and magic still have cole...now if you said cole and 2-3 seconds sure but jazz not doing that