OKC offseason: Time to hit the accelerator.

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OKC offseason: Time to hit the accelerator. 

Post#1 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sun May 26, 2024 4:42 pm

First, a trade

OKC gets: Lauri Markkanen, cap space
OKC sends: Best 2025 pick, 2nd best 2026 pick, Lu Dort, Josh Giddey, Kenny Hustle, Ousmane Dieng

Utah receives: Best 2025 OKC pick, 2nd best 2026 OKC pick, Ousmane Dieng, Kenny Hustle, Josh Giddey, Jusuf Nurkic, 2031 PHX pick, four seconds
Utah sends: Lauri Markkanen, cap space

Phoenix receives: Lu Dort
Phoenix sends: Jusuf Nurkic, 2031 first, four seconds


OKC then signs Paul George to a four year max contract.

Why for OKC: ... I mean, they get to start SGA-JDub-PG13-Lauri-Chet...... That's really good.

Why for Utah: Blow it up and get three potentially very good picks.... They also get Dieng and Giddey which... Maybe they view those guys positively

Why for Phoenix: Trade Nurkic for a much better player that actually makes less money than him (this is pretty hard), try to find a center in the minimum market (maybe Goga?)
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Post#2 » by Godaddycurse » Sun May 26, 2024 4:45 pm

i think OKC is actually better off w/ Dort instead of PG13 if they get Lauri. They need a low usage guy in the SL with those other 4
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Post#3 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sun May 26, 2024 4:46 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:i think OKC is actually better off w/ Dort instead of PG13 if they get Lauri. They need a low usage guy in the SL with those other 4


Dort being just a good instead of elite shooter and Dort being so small hurt them a lot. Paul George would be playing Dort's role, just with way more size and with more gravity.
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Post#4 » by Godaddycurse » Sun May 26, 2024 4:47 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:i think OKC is actually better off w/ Dort instead of PG13 if they get Lauri. They need a low usage guy in the SL with those other 4


Dort being just a good instead of elite shooter and Dort being so small hurt them a lot.


??? it was their (lack of) a 4 that hurted them, not Dort. Dort is their POA defender
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Post#5 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun May 26, 2024 4:58 pm

Yeah if OKC trades for Lauri keeping Dort for some kind of role would be ideal.
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Post#6 » by Astaluego » Sun May 26, 2024 5:07 pm

It would be better if I kept Dort, he fits perfectly and that leaving chemistry aside... that team I set up is financially unviable, I won't be able to keep them for long. There are literally 5 maximum players and that's without taking into account the bank.
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Post#7 » by AingesBurner » Sun May 26, 2024 6:17 pm

Not enough for Utah. I would pass.
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Post#8 » by pipfan » Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm

Lauri to OKC is very obvious
Utah gets Giddy, Dieng, #12, their pick back plus one more pick (not sure which), plus cap space

Lauri makes OKC favorites
Utah tanks for the 2025 lotto and adds 3 young talents, plus saves $ for future moves
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Post#9 » by AingesBurner » Sun May 26, 2024 6:53 pm

pipfan wrote:Lauri to OKC is very obvious
Utah gets Giddy, Dieng, #12, their pick back plus one more pick (not sure which), plus cap space

Lauri makes OKC favorites
Utah tanks for the 2025 lotto and adds 3 young talents, plus saves $ for future moves


Terrible for Utah.
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Post#10 » by wemby » Mon May 27, 2024 2:59 am

It depends on how Utah values Giddy and Dieng, personally I see Dieng as more of a reclamation project and Giddey isn't particularly valuable to me, so it comes to the picks which are rather underwhelming TBH.
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Post#11 » by cjmcallist » Mon May 27, 2024 3:58 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:First, a trade

OKC gets: Lauri Markkanen, cap space
OKC sends: Best 2025 pick, 2nd best 2026 pick, Lu Dort, Josh Giddey, Kenny Hustle, Ousmane Dieng

Utah receives: Best 2025 OKC pick, 2nd best 2026 OKC pick, Ousmane Dieng, Kenny Hustle, Josh Giddey, Jusuf Nurkic, 2031 PHX pick, four seconds
Utah sends: Lauri Markkanen, cap space

Phoenix receives: Lu Dort
Phoenix sends: Jusuf Nurkic, 2031 first, four seconds


OKC then signs Paul George to a four year max contract.

Why for OKC: ... I mean, they get to start SGA-JDub-PG13-Lauri-Chet...... That's really good.

Why for Utah: Blow it up and get three potentially very good picks.... They also get Dieng and Giddey which... Maybe they view those guys positively

Why for Phoenix: Trade Nurkic for a much better player that actually makes less money than him (this is pretty hard), try to find a center in the minimum market (maybe Goga?)

I like the direction and I would love to get Lauri.

Not as sure about the PG part. I like PG, but would rather use the cap space to renegotiate and extend Lauri if we get him. Alternatively, would target a younger player in the same mold (Mikal Bridges?).
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Post#12 » by Dadouv47 » Mon May 27, 2024 8:31 am

I like it in theory but somehow too scared to get two injury prone players in Lauri/PG13...only worth taking the risk if we can keep Dort.
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Post#13 » by BK_2020 » Mon May 27, 2024 11:37 am

Not enough room under the cap to sign PG13 to a 30% max let alone 35% max.
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Post#14 » by Dn4sty » Mon May 27, 2024 2:49 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Not enough room under the cap to sign PG13 to a 30% max let alone 35% max.


They could actually do it.

They have 33 million in space and that’s with them drafting at 12. You trade out of that 1st entirely and that number jumps to just over 37 million.

Lauri makes 1.5 million more than Dort so now they are at 35.5

Moving off of Kenrich and Giddey opens up another 15 million. I know there are are roster charges, but OKC could get there.
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Post#15 » by BK_2020 » Mon May 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Not enough room under the cap to sign PG13 to a 30% max let alone 35% max.


They could actually do it.

They have 33 million in space and that’s with them drafting at 12. You trade out of that 1st entirely and that number jumps to just over 37 million.

Lauri makes 1.5 million more than Dort so now they are at 35.5

Moving off of Kenrich and Giddey opens up another 15 million. I know there are are roster charges, but OKC could get there.

good points all. Not sure if PG13 at his age is worth it but that's a whole different question.
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Post#16 » by Dn4sty » Mon May 27, 2024 3:57 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Not enough room under the cap to sign PG13 to a 30% max let alone 35% max.


They could actually do it.

They have 33 million in space and that’s with them drafting at 12. You trade out of that 1st entirely and that number jumps to just over 37 million.

Lauri makes 1.5 million more than Dort so now they are at 35.5

Moving off of Kenrich and Giddey opens up another 15 million. I know there are are roster charges, but OKC could get there.

good points all. Not sure if PG13 at his age is worth it but that's a whole different question.


I’m not a fan of the idea.

If Lauri comes to OKC, I think they should 100% do the raise and extension, use the room MLE and then draft someone at 12
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Post#17 » by Fo-Real » Mon May 27, 2024 4:22 pm

Just a straight body trade wouldn't make enough sense for phoenix as the difference in salary isn't enough. Makes no sense to absolutely attach picks to this. This would be a terrible idea for phoenix!
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Post#18 » by lloydj » Tue May 28, 2024 11:10 pm

Knicks Trade: Mitchell Robinson

OKC Trade: Josh Giddy

Brunson/Deuce/Giddy/?
Devi/Hart/Burke/Giddy
O.G./Hart/Giddy/Burke
Randall/O.G./Hart/Precious
IHart/ ? /Precious/Sims
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Post#19 » by nate33 » Wed May 29, 2024 1:35 pm

I just don't see OKC offering all that much for an aging vet like PG. The rest of their core is so young that they are thinking about a long-term championship window. They're not going to go all-in for a 1-2 year window followed by a regression.

So, Giddey and picks for Lauri is great. But keep Dort and forget about the PG idea.
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Post#20 » by jayjaysee » Wed May 29, 2024 3:48 pm

nate33 wrote:I just don't see OKC offering all that much for an aging vet like PG. The rest of their core is so young that they are thinking about a long-term championship window. They're not going to go all-in for a 1-2 year window followed by a regression.

So, Giddey and picks for Lauri is great. But keep Dort and forget about the PG idea.


I think the best scenario would be..

Sign PG to 4 year max. Trade Giddey for best assets possible.

Stay under tax for two years while being the best team in league probably? Decide between jumping the second apron in 2026-2027 season or dump the two years of Paul George..

Meanwhile Presti can just keep flipping picks and improving assets..

This 5 star lineup sounds amazing. But I don’t think fans should bet on any owner being willing to pay for that..

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