Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division

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Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#1 » by NYG » Mon May 27, 2024 8:40 pm

Dallas Mavericks

Trades:
Maxi Kleber and Tim Hardaway Jr. for Andrew Wiggins

Draft:
Draft Ariel Kuhporti 58th Overall

Free Agency:
Sign Max Christie to veteran minimum
Sign Doug McDermott to veteran minimum

Other Transactions:
None

Luka Doncic $43,031,940
Kyrie Irving $40,000,000
PJ Washington $15,500,000
Daniel Gafford $13,394,160
Josh Green $12,654,321
Dereck Lively II $5,014,560
Dwight Powell $4,000,000
Dante Exum $3,150,000
Oivier-Maxence Prosper $2,870,400
Jaden Hardy $2,019,699
Ariel Kuhporti $1,160,544
Andrew Wiggins $26,276,786
Doug McDermott $2,093,637
Max Christie $2,093,637

JaVale McGee Dead Cap $2,208,856

Total Salary $175,468,540
Cap Space -$34,468,540
Tax Space -$4,123,540
1st Apron Space $3,186,460
2nd Apron Space $13,999,460



Houston Rockets

Trades:
Jalen Green, Jae'Sean Tate, Jeff Green, Jock Landale, 3rd Overall Pick, 2026 Unprotected Brooklyn Nets First Round Draft Pick (via Rockets) and 2028 Top 10 Protected Houston Rockets First Round Draft Pick (2029 - Top 4 Protected / 2030 - Unprotected) for Trae Young

Draft:
Draft Izan Alamnsa 44th Overall

Free Agency:
Sign Buddy Hield to Non-Tax MLE
Sign Chuma Okeke to BAE
Sign Thaddeus Young to veteran minimum
Sign Kira Lewis Jr. to veteran minimum

Other Transactions:
None

Fred VanVleet $42,846,615
Dillon Brooks $22,255,493
Steven Adams $12,600,000
Jabari Smith Jr. $9,770,880
Amen Thompson $9,249,960
Alperen Sengun $5,424,654
Tari Eason $3,695,160
Cam Whitmore $3,379,080
Trae Young $43,031,940
Izan Almansa $1,160,544
Buddy Hield $12,859,000
Chuma Okeke $4,681,000
Thaddeus Young $2,093,637
Kira Lewis Jr. $2,093,637

Total Salary $175,141,600
Cap Space -$34,141,600
Tax Space -$3,796,600
1st Apron Space $3,513,400
2nd Apron Space $14,326,400



Memphis Grizzlies

Trades:
39th Overall, 57th Overall and Cash for 37th Overall
Ziaire Williams and Jake LaRavia to Detroit for future top 55 protected second round draft pick

Draft:
Draft Dalton Knecht 9th Overall
Draft Ulrich Chomche 37th Overall

Free Agency:
Sign Andre Drummond using $5.8 Million of Non Tax MLE
Sign Precious Achiuwa using $7 Million of Non Tax MLE

Other Transactions:
None

Ja Morant $36,725,670
Desmond Bane $34,005,250
Jaren Jackson Jr. $25,257,798
Marcus Smart $20,210,285
Brandon Clarke $12,500,000
John Konchar $6,165,000
Precious Achiuwa $7,000,000
Santi Aldama $3,960,531
Andre Drummond $5,800,000
Yuta Watanabe $2,654,644
Vincent Williams Jr. $2,120,693
G.G. Jackson $1,891,857
Dalton Knecht $6,062,760
Ulrich Chomche $1,160,544
Derrick Rose $3,356,271

Kennedy Chandler Dead Cap $2,019,699

Total Salary $170,891,002
Cap Space -$29,891,002
Tax Space $453,998
1st Apron Space $7,763,998
2nd Apron Space $18,576,998



New Orleans Pelicans

Trades:
Brandon Ingram and Jordan Hawkins for Jarrett Allen and Caris LeVert

Draft:
Draft Kel'el Ware 21st Overall

Free Agency:
Sign Bruce Brown using Non-Tax MLE
Sign Naji Marshall using BAE

Other Transactions:
None

Zion Williamson $36,725,670
C.J. McCollum $33,333,333
Herb Jones $12,976,362
Larry Nance Jr. $11,205,000
Dyson Daniels $6,059,520
Trey Murphy III $5,159,855
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl $2,196,970
E.J. Liddell $2,120,693
Jose Alvarado $1,988,598
Kel'el Ware $3,362,880
Jarrett Allen $20,000,000
Caris LeVert $16,615,384
Bruce Brown $12,859,000
Naji Marshall $4,681,000

Total Salary $169,284,265
Cap Space -$28,284,265
Tax Space $2,060,735
1st Apron Space $9,370,735
2nd Apron Space $20,183,735



San Antonio Spurs

Trades:
None

Draft:
Draft Robert Dillingham 4th Overall
Draft Ron Holland 8th Overall
Draft Payton Sandfort 35th Overall
Draft Dillon Jones 48th Overall

Free Agency:
Sign Kyle Anderson to 1 year deal at $14 Million
Sign Russell Westbrook using Cap MLE

Other Transactions:
Waive Devonte' Graham


Devin Vassell $29,347,826
Keldon Johnson $19,000,000
Zach Collins $16,741,200
Victor Wembanyama $12,768,960
Tre Jones $9,104,167
Jeremy Sochan $5,570,040
Malaki Branham $3,217,920
Julian Champagnie $3,000,000
Blake Wesley $2,624,280
Charles Bassey $2,500,000
Sidy Cissoko $1,891,857
Robert Dillingham $9,588,600
Kyle Anderson $14,000,000
Russell Westbrook $8,006,000
Ron Holland $6,595,440

Devonte' Graham G'Teed $2,850,000

Total Salary $146,806,290
Cap Space -$5,806,290
Tax Space $24,538,710
1st Apron Space $31,848,710
2nd Apron Space $42,661,710
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#2 » by psman2 » Mon May 27, 2024 11:31 pm

For Memphis - a rather ho hum offseason....my thoughts... I rather throw more money at a Goga or Jalen Smith than target both Drummond/Precious, I think Goga would choose Memphis over Charlotte, better team and better role. But I don't think Goga gets over 7-9 million from either team... 3rd string centers that cannot even crack their current team's playoff rotation getting the full MLE the next offseason is just not a real thing....same with Jalen doubt he gets the full MLE but he at least has a better chance than Goga. I also don't like that both the two frontcourt players you have chosen for us to sign cannot shoot, I don't think we would do that. I think we go after a Bamba over Drummond if we really want Precious. And if we really want Drummond then I think we target a 4/5 that can shoot some or just keep LaRavia over signing Precious. I don't think we want 3/4 main frontcourt guys that can shoot at all since Clarke is a non shooter.

Plus rather include 2nds and cash to dump Zaire and Rose and keep LaRavia. He started to look like the player we wanted when we drafted him and rather actually pay the cost to dump them than use LaRavia as the incentive.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#3 » by jredsaz » Tue May 28, 2024 12:39 am

I’d like to see San Antonio go get a legit PG. Garland is pretty obvious but even Tyus Jones. Overpaying CP or Lowery for a year even makes some sense. Get a floor general for Wemby who is better than Tre Jones or a rookie.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#4 » by daoneandonly » Tue May 28, 2024 12:45 am

Really would prefer Dallas resign Jones Jr and use a 2nd or something to clear either THJ's or Green's salary to have the money. Makes much more sense than Wiggins
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#5 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 12:51 am

daoneandonly wrote:Really would prefer Dallas resign Jones Jr and use a 2nd or something to clear either THJ's or Green's salary to have the money. Makes much more sense than Wiggins


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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#6 » by Apz » Tue May 28, 2024 9:50 am

Would dump green with whatever needed to resign djj, then if dfs value really tanked that much trade thj + 2nd for him
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#7 » by jayjaysee » Tue May 28, 2024 10:38 am

I know I ran with the THJ/Maxi for Wiggins theme for a long time. But DJJ is playing that role really well and will hopefully be 10-14 million dollars a year cheaper (or he probably won’t be in Dallas)

I would do this if Dallas had another trade of Green for a rookie contract guard who can create offense lined up. Could need a Powell dump as well to get all the way to the MLE, but that would be the “all in” move that carries this version of Mavs through Kai decline or exit.. having all three of DJJ, Wiggins, PJ with elite rim protection behind them would be fun basketball to watch IMO.

If DJJ signs with the Pistons for 16-20 mil a year, yeah do this trade..
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#8 » by daoneandonly » Tue May 28, 2024 11:23 am

Apz wrote:Would dump green with whatever needed to resign djj, then if dfs value really tanked that much trade thj + 2nd for him


jayjaysee wrote:I know I ran with the THJ/Maxi for Wiggins theme for a long time. But DJJ is playing that role really well and will hopefully be 10-14 million dollars a year cheaper (or he probably won’t be in Dallas)

I would do this if Dallas had another trade of Green for a rookie contract guard who can create offense lined up. Could need a Powell dump as well to get all the way to the MLE, but that would be the “all in” move that carries this version of Mavs through Kai decline or exit.. having all three of DJJ, Wiggins, PJ with elite rim protection behind them would be fun basketball to watch IMO.

If DJJ signs with the Pistons for 16-20 mil a year, yeah do this trade..


Yea, chemistry matters. I think Dallas should keep the starting 5 intact as much as they are able, unless DJJ goes for something egregious. The only starting 5 tweak I'd want Dallas to make for next season is Lively starting ahead of Gaff, but the latter still getting plenty of minutes

The issue is how the Mavs can free up money to ensure DJJ re-signs. Thats where some craftiness needs to be had and hopefully Dallas can use one of THJ or Green to do it. WIggins is a hard sell because the guy's play seems to fluctuate when a salary increase is within reach, dont really want that on our team.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#9 » by Mavrelous » Tue May 28, 2024 11:52 am

I hope DAL offseason is much simpler, dump THJ, MLE on DJJ, BAE on a bench shooter (Beasly or McBuckets)...
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#10 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 12:59 pm

Mavrelous wrote:I hope DAL offseason is much simpler, dump THJ, MLE on DJJ, BAE on a bench shooter (Beasly or McBuckets)...


I think Beasley is a pipe dream for the BAE I think he foreshore gets much more then that.

But McBuckets would be nice.

I think Cam Spencer and Antonio Reeves are both very good shooters in this years class as well who can constitute and will shoot the lights out.

Ever since the deadline Dallas not longer dies by the 3 because we play defense now. But it would be nice if we could live by the 3 because a role player can’t miss. Like what Naz Reid did in game 2. I’m sick of our best bench shooter being Josh Green and Dante Exum.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#11 » by Apz » Tue May 28, 2024 4:49 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I hope DAL offseason is much simpler, dump THJ, MLE on DJJ, BAE on a bench shooter (Beasly or McBuckets)...


I think Beasley is a pipe dream for the BAE I think he foreshore gets much more then that.

But McBuckets would be nice.

I think Cam Spencer and Antonio Reeves are both very good shooters in this years class as well who can constitute and will shoot the lights out.

Ever since the deadline Dallas not longer dies by the 3 because we play defense now. But it would be nice if we could live by the 3 because a role player can’t miss. Like what Naz Reid did in game 2. I’m sick of our best bench shooter being Josh Green and Dante Exum.


Ye, i wonder what thjs real injury were. Pretty sure they replaced his arms with twigs cause he cant hit **** anymore. And i say that as someone that defended him for a long time and wanted to keep him because his shooting been needed. Wanna bet he now plays tonight and puts up 30?

Issue is that mavs now play defense and if a player cant hold his own he wont play. Thj basicly havent even got a chance brcause hardy got more physical tools and is more dangwrous offensively. Considering how full our roster is I wouldnt expect huge changes
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#12 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 5:01 pm

Apz wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:I hope DAL offseason is much simpler, dump THJ, MLE on DJJ, BAE on a bench shooter (Beasly or McBuckets)...


I think Beasley is a pipe dream for the BAE I think he foreshore gets much more then that.

But McBuckets would be nice.

I think Cam Spencer and Antonio Reeves are both very good shooters in this years class as well who can constitute and will shoot the lights out.

Ever since the deadline Dallas not longer dies by the 3 because we play defense now. But it would be nice if we could live by the 3 because a role player can’t miss. Like what Naz Reid did in game 2. I’m sick of our best bench shooter being Josh Green and Dante Exum.


Ye, i wonder what thjs real injury were. Pretty sure they replaced his arms with twigs cause he cant hit **** anymore. And i say that as someone that defended him for a long time and wanted to keep him because his shooting been needed. Wanna bet he now plays tonight and puts up 30?

Issue is that mavs now play defense and if a player cant hold his own he wont play. Thj basicly havent even got a chance brcause hardy got more physical tools and is more dangwrous offensively. Considering how full our roster is I wouldnt expect huge changes


Cam Spencer actually had a good defensive rating this season and a very good defensive box plus minus at UConn this season and Rutgers last season.

And I disagree a bit about Dallas’s defense. Luka isn’t Kawhi Leonard, but his defense has been fantastic because he knows where his help is, funnels his man into to the help, knows the rotations, and plays in the gaps. I think Dallas’s defense has been so exceptional because everyone has the right attitude and the coaching has been on point.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#13 » by Kiss of Death » Tue May 28, 2024 5:37 pm

Wrong move for Houston. Let someone else take on Trae Young.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#14 » by Texas Chuck » Tue May 28, 2024 8:31 pm

Still okay with trading for Wiggins. As a stan, I hate giving up Maxi. And just looking at the roster, he still brings things they need and lack otherwise. But with his health and with no guarantees on Jones, I'd make the OP's deal for Dallas.

Not sure what's happened to Timmy, but he's not been right for months now. Maybe its health/confidence and Dallas can bring him back and get 14 points and 38% 3-pt shooting and he can help them get through a regular season, but I think they pretty much have to convert his money to something more dependable.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Southwest Division 

Post#15 » by QMemphis » Tue May 28, 2024 10:55 pm

Memphis will be far more active looking to make winning moves to maximize the next two years as well maintain flexibility.

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