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Ill offer this deal for:
-Washinton adds a 2nd lottery pick and a prospect PG who needs change of scenery
-Detroit adds a veteran rotational 3/4 and a 2nd 1st round pick in moving on from Ivey
-OKC adds further secondary scoring in frontcourt with Kuzma

To Washington (Trade Kuzma, #26)
-#12 pick
-Jaden Ivey
-2025 Philadelphia 1st round pick (1-6 protected, 2026 1-4 protected, 2027 1-4 protected or 2027 2nd)

To Detroit (Trade Ivey)
-#26 pick
-Kendrtick Williams

To OKC (Trade Williams, #12, Future protected 1st)
-Kyle Kuzma

Why?
-Washington cashes out on Kuzma as they look to 2024-25 as another development/rebuilding year to get a high 2025 1st. Ivey gets a change of scenery with young team and they have #2 and #12 pick

Ivey/#12/FA?
Poole/Davis/Coulibaly
Avdija/Kispert/Baldwin
Bagley/FA?/#51
Homes/#2/Vucevik

-The Pistons move on from Ivey as they add a veteran SF/PF off bench and get another 2024 1st

Cunningham/Sasser/Flynn?
FA?/Thompson/Grimes
FA?/Williams/#5
FA?/FA?/#26
Duren/Stewart/#53

-The Thunder add a veteran 4 in his prime with lottery pick and cap space

SGA/Wallace/FA?
Dort/Joe/Wiggins
Williams/Giddey/Waters
Kuzma/Dieng/FA?
Holmgren/Williams/FA?

I'm fairly low on Ivey for the pistons, but there is no point in moving him for a late first rounder.

I'm fairly low on Ivey for the pistons, but there is no point in moving him for a late first rounder.

This feels very good for Washington and poor value for both Detroit and OKC. I don't see Detroit just dumping Ivey for no significant return. At that point just keep him. I also don't see Kuzma as being worth #12 and a future 1st (and a bunch of immediate salary relief).

#12 + Williams + immediate salary relief to Washington for Kuzma (leaving Detroit out) feels like a better value deal.

Too good for Washington. Just take Ivey out. If we could get two firsts for Kuzma, then its a deal.

When did Kuzma gain anywhere near this value?

Cut Detroit and the future picks out. Make it Kuzma and #26 for K Williams and #12

(not that this is the direction I think OKC should go in)

Bentley1225 wrote:Ill offer this deal for:
-Washinton adds a 2nd lottery pick and a prospect PG who needs change of scenery
-Detroit adds a veteran rotational 3/4 and a 2nd 1st round pick in moving on from Ivey
-OKC adds further secondary scoring in frontcourt with Kuzma

To Washington (Trade Kuzma, #26)
-#12 pick
-Jaden Ivey
-2025 Philadelphia 1st round pick (1-6 protected, 2026 1-4 protected, 2027 1-4 protected or 2027 2nd)

To Detroit (Trade Ivey)
-#26 pick
-Kendrtick Williams

To OKC (Trade Williams, #12, Future protected 1st)
-Kyle Kuzma

Why?
-Washington cashes out on Kuzma as they look to 2024-25 as another development/rebuilding year to get a high 2025 1st. Ivey gets a change of scenery with young team and they have #2 and #12 pick

Ivey/#12/FA?
Poole/Davis/Coulibaly
Avdija/Kispert/Baldwin
Bagley/FA?/#51
Homes/#2/Vucevik

-The Pistons move on from Ivey as they add a veteran SF/PF off bench and get another 2024 1st

Cunningham/Sasser/Flynn?
FA?/Thompson/Grimes
FA?/Williams/#5
FA?/FA?/#26
Duren/Stewart/#53

-The Thunder add a veteran 4 in his prime with lottery pick and cap space

SGA/Wallace/FA?
Dort/Joe/Wiggins
Williams/Giddey/Waters
Kuzma/Dieng/FA?
Holmgren/Williams/FA?

This deal is pretty low value for Ivey. a bottom pick in a weak draft doesn't make sense.

Ivey is worth a lot more than #26 in a crappy draft.