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Is this the year Utah decides to cash in and trade the older players (25/26/26) and go with a true youth movement? Or perhaps simply trade out Markkanen now and reset?

Utah trades Collins/24 SRP
Miami trades Herro
Miami gets some needed size to help Adebayo. And an early 2nd - Sallis/Carrington range.
Utah gets a young salary-controlled player for 3 more years.

Utah trades Markkanen
NOP trades Jones/Murphy
A lot of folks rave about Jones/Murphy, but neither is close to Markkanen. NOP with Markkanen, Williamson, will make McCollum better. When NOP move Ingram, they can shore up other spots.
Utah starts with a fairly young new look. George, Herro, Murphy, Jones, Kessler. Still have almost $70M to spend, can use the #12 to get either a center or PG or simply (BPA).

I think NOP should run away from this

jayjaysee wrote:I think NOP should run away from this

I can't see the Heat trading Herro for Collins either.

Miami should run for the hills if that is the best offer they get for Herro. New Orleans also isn't trading Murphy or Jones, it us going to be Ingram or picks + prospects

I don't see New Orleans trading 2 key players for 1. Typically teams don't do that--they trade asset(s) of the future variety (Rookie-scale potential guys, recent draft picks, draft picks) when acquiring a win-now talent. For New Orleans, I actually think they get noticeable worse here. They trade one of the best 3+D wings in the NBA on a bargain contract AND a key rotation player on a good contract [for now] for a fringe all-star in Lauri.

Now, New Orleans would have no positive defenders, a front-court of Lauri/Zion/???? as they also lack a center.

Just a nonsensical trade for New Orleans.

As for Miami, maybe they need a PF to replace Jimmy Butler, but I don't think this trade is remotely close. Herro has much more ability currently and a far greater ceiling than Collins. A 2nd or two doesn't change that.

jbk1234 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:I think NOP should run away from this

I can't see the Heat trading Herro for Collins either.

Yeah, but at least you can angle it to be about saving so much money and allocating it else where, etc..

NOP trades for a secondary star and then has to use other assets to turn their lesser but similar star into exactly what they just traded away?

Yea, I think Pels would be willing to offer Daniels, Hawkins and picks for Lauri. Or Ingram (to 3rd team) with assets to UTA. But the idea is to add to the Zion, Murphy, Herb core.

I do think an Ingram (extension agreement) trade to pair a 'star' with Lauri, or to a 3rd team makes sense for the Jazz's other pieces. Sexton, Collins, Kessler could all fit well for the Pels.

What is a "true youth movement"?

The three players are mid-twenties, not pensioners.

Only one of those three players even generate a positive return. Cashing out on Sexton and Collins will bring you back nothing of value.

Of course Lauri would generate a great return, but why move on a player like him, especially if he will re-sign there.

flranger wrote:Only one of those three players even generate a positive return. Cashing out on Sexton and Collins will bring you back nothing of value.

Of course Lauri would generate a great return, but why move on a player like him, especially if he will re-sign there.

Sexton definitely has positive value.

Dez wrote:What is a "true youth movement"?

The three players are mid-twenties, not pensioners.

I think it's more about rookie scale contracts vs paying Markkanen, Sexton, and Collins ~90 million and trying to get to the play-in in the west. They probably try to get the rookie scale guys to mesh with the "vets" but without a signed extension for Markkanen, you've got to be thinking about alternatives.

Seems like the timing is very good to go for a tank (25- Flagg, Bailey 26 - Boozer, Dybantsa), so I could certainly see Utah going for it (although I have no idea about if their management believes in tanking, philosophically). However, I would expect them to look for more pick assets than players back...