You are the GM of the Miami Heat, what are you doing this offseason?
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They have had incredible performance in recent years, but their biggest star will turn 35 before the start of the next season and needs a new contract.
They have another elite piece like the perennial DPOY candidate Bam Adebayo about to turn 27 and enter his prime, some good young players (Jazquez/Herro/Jovic)..., the (personal opinion) best coach in the league. league and they are a super attractive destination..tell us what you would do, if you were in charge
They have another elite piece like the perennial DPOY candidate Bam Adebayo about to turn 27 and enter his prime, some good young players (Jazquez/Herro/Jovic)..., the (personal opinion) best coach in the league. league and they are a super attractive destination..tell us what you would do, if you were in charge
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Let’s do a unique version. Miami blowup.
Trade 1:: Presti’s War Chest
Bam + Robinson to OKC for Wallace + Giddey + #12 + 2025 Heat 1st + All Rockets picks/swaps. More if I can get Presti drunk over champagne when I call on Bam trade.
Trade 2:: Herro’s Hornets
Herro + Caleb Martin + #15 to Charlotte for Bertans + NSJ + #6 + 2027 Heat 1st. Maybe that 2027 Dallas 1st owed if I can get it.
Trade 3:: Bring Butler Back
Butler + Rozier to Philly for Pure Cap + 3x 76ers 1sts (all owed).
So now, I have South Florida, instant 87M’ish in cap space with even more cap space 2025 offseason, all my own picks and many more. I tank my way to top draft pick 2025 - all with best NBA coach developing my youth.
24/25 Miami Heat::
#6 Clingan | Bryant
Jovic | #12
Jaquez
Giddey | NSJ
Wallace
2025 offseason I will have like 100M in cap space, so two stars can “take their” talents to South Beach again (Mitchell and Ingram or Markkanen maybe) to join the pups (including 2025 top 3 pick), best coach in NBA, all the assets needed for big trades.
Trade 1:: Presti’s War Chest
Bam + Robinson to OKC for Wallace + Giddey + #12 + 2025 Heat 1st + All Rockets picks/swaps. More if I can get Presti drunk over champagne when I call on Bam trade.
Trade 2:: Herro’s Hornets
Herro + Caleb Martin + #15 to Charlotte for Bertans + NSJ + #6 + 2027 Heat 1st. Maybe that 2027 Dallas 1st owed if I can get it.
Trade 3:: Bring Butler Back
Butler + Rozier to Philly for Pure Cap + 3x 76ers 1sts (all owed).
So now, I have South Florida, instant 87M’ish in cap space with even more cap space 2025 offseason, all my own picks and many more. I tank my way to top draft pick 2025 - all with best NBA coach developing my youth.
24/25 Miami Heat::
#6 Clingan | Bryant
Jovic | #12
Jaquez
Giddey | NSJ
Wallace
2025 offseason I will have like 100M in cap space, so two stars can “take their” talents to South Beach again (Mitchell and Ingram or Markkanen maybe) to join the pups (including 2025 top 3 pick), best coach in NBA, all the assets needed for big trades.
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You get the feeling Miami will be involved in a blockbuster trade. Whether that's offloading Jimmy, or adding to him and Bam.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
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Andy Elisburg? I would get on Ozempic and eat lots of leafy greens
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I feel like Riley will ley Butler go. Seems like a mistake tbh.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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One_and_Done wrote:I feel like Riley will ley Butler go. Seems like a mistake tbh.
OxAndFox wrote:You get the feeling Miami will be involved in a blockbuster trade. Whether that's offloading Jimmy, or adding to him and Bam.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
I think it's exactly what they should do. I think OKC is the perfect place for Jimmy too. Provided he's fine playing in Oklahoma, the Thunder can both pay him and allow him to sit when needed in the regular season. They're so deep they might be helped by letting their kids play a ton in the regular season to get solid reps. Then in the playoffs Jimmy becomes Playoff Jimmy and that plus Chet, SGA and JDub might be enough to win the whole thing.
As to the trade:
Giddey
Dort
2FRPs (OKC owns Miami's 2025 pick 1-14)
3SRPs
Filler
Seems fair on both sides and easily done.
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I don't think they're moving Dort.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Slim Charless wrote:One_and_Done wrote:I feel like Riley will ley Butler go. Seems like a mistake tbh.OxAndFox wrote:You get the feeling Miami will be involved in a blockbuster trade. Whether that's offloading Jimmy, or adding to him and Bam.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
I think it's exactly what they should do. I think OKC is the perfect place for Jimmy too. Provided he's fine playing in Oklahoma, the Thunder can both pay him and allow him to sit when needed in the regular season. They're so deep they might be helped by letting their kids play a ton in the regular season to get solid reps. Then in the playoffs Jimmy becomes Playoff Jimmy and that plus Chet, SGA and JDub might be enough to win the whole thing.
As to the trade:
Giddey
Dort
2FRPs (OKC owns Miami's 2025 pick 1-14)
3SRPs
Filler
Seems fair on both sides and easily done.
That doesn't draw Miami's interest. You're going to have to add more first round picks or a better prospect, and we have no need for Dort even without Jimmy.
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OxAndFox wrote:You get the feeling Miami will be involved in a blockbuster trade. Whether that's offloading Jimmy, or adding to him and Bam.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
I would be okay with that direction. I would be targeting Philadelphia to move Jimmy as I know he'll be happy to play with Embiid and they have a couple of things I'd want - first round picks and cap space. Three firsts and space gets it done.
I would probably be targeting Mitchell as the new star with Herro going out.
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Honest question, what is Herro’s trade value? It can’t be high considering his injury history and subpar playoff performances.
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Flash4thewin wrote:Honest question, what is Herro’s trade value? It can’t be high considering his injury history and subpar playoff performances.
I would guess we may be able to get an expiring and like a couple of seconds for him. Better picks if we're willing to take on crappy contracts. So I would say very slightly above neutral.
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BBallFreak wrote:Slim Charless wrote:One_and_Done wrote:I feel like Riley will ley Butler go. Seems like a mistake tbh.OxAndFox wrote:You get the feeling Miami will be involved in a blockbuster trade. Whether that's offloading Jimmy, or adding to him and Bam.
If I were the Heat you cash in on Jimmy and find another star that you can build around. Who that is I'm not sure, but I would be keeping Bam, JJJ and Jovic. The rest can be dealt.
I think it's exactly what they should do. I think OKC is the perfect place for Jimmy too. Provided he's fine playing in Oklahoma, the Thunder can both pay him and allow him to sit when needed in the regular season. They're so deep they might be helped by letting their kids play a ton in the regular season to get solid reps. Then in the playoffs Jimmy becomes Playoff Jimmy and that plus Chet, SGA and JDub might be enough to win the whole thing.
As to the trade:
Giddey
Dort
2FRPs (OKC owns Miami's 2025 pick 1-14)
3SRPs
Filler
Seems fair on both sides and easily done.
That doesn't draw Miami's interest. You're going to have to add more first round picks or a better prospect, and we have no need for Dort even without Jimmy.
Dort played fantastic defense on Luka.... you don't think he can do the same to Tatum/Brown? Among others, and is only 26. You have no need for players like that?
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Slim Charless wrote:BBallFreak wrote:Slim Charless wrote:
I think it's exactly what they should do. I think OKC is the perfect place for Jimmy too. Provided he's fine playing in Oklahoma, the Thunder can both pay him and allow him to sit when needed in the regular season. They're so deep they might be helped by letting their kids play a ton in the regular season to get solid reps. Then in the playoffs Jimmy becomes Playoff Jimmy and that plus Chet, SGA and JDub might be enough to win the whole thing.
As to the trade:
Giddey
Dort
2FRPs (OKC owns Miami's 2025 pick 1-14)
3SRPs
Filler
Seems fair on both sides and easily done.
That doesn't draw Miami's interest. You're going to have to add more first round picks or a better prospect, and we have no need for Dort even without Jimmy.
Dort played fantastic defense on Luka.... you don't think he can do the same to Tatum/Brown? Among others, and is only 26. You have no need for players like that?
Sure, he could play for us, but we already have Herro, Robinson, Jaquez, and now Giddey. That's not including Highsmith and Martin who we'd love to keep. And Richardson who might stay. In other words, he'd be one of many and I'm not looking at him as a guy we need to get in a trade for Jimmy Butler. It's bad roster construction.
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I don't think OKC would be all that interested in Butler. If they're going to trade a bunch of that pick capital, they want a guy who can play alongside their core for many years, not a guy with just a 1 or 2-year window and even that is questionable given his injury history.
A more desperate to win-now team like Philly or the Lakers might trade for Butler, but OKC has the ability to pick and choose they guy they want when they want him. They will surely look for guys like Markkanen or Mikal Bridges first before paying full price for Butler.
A more desperate to win-now team like Philly or the Lakers might trade for Butler, but OKC has the ability to pick and choose they guy they want when they want him. They will surely look for guys like Markkanen or Mikal Bridges first before paying full price for Butler.
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nate33 wrote:I don't think OKC would be all that interested in Butler. If they're going to trade a bunch of that pick capital, they want a guy who can play alongside their core for many years, not a guy with just a 1 or 2-year window and even that is questionable given his injury history.
A more desperate to win-now team like Philly or the Lakers might trade for Butler, but OKC has the ability to pick and choose they guy they want when they want him. They will surely look for guys like Markkanen or Mikal Bridges first before paying full price for Butler.
Sixers and a Jimmy trade are just like the perfect match for both sides. Daryl is desperate, Miami needs cap relief and a new stock of first round picks to have ammo for the next star trade they would be angling for
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BBallFreak wrote:Slim Charless wrote:BBallFreak wrote:That doesn't draw Miami's interest. You're going to have to add more first round picks or a better prospect, and we have no need for Dort even without Jimmy.
Dort played fantastic defense on Luka.... you don't think he can do the same to Tatum/Brown? Among others, and is only 26. You have no need for players like that?
Sure, he could play for us, but we already have Herro, Robinson, Jaquez, and now Giddey. That's not including Highsmith and Martin who we'd love to keep. And Richardson who might stay. In other words, he'd be one of many and I'm not looking at him as a guy we need to get in a trade for Jimmy Butler. It's bad roster construction.
Well obviously he's not the key part to the trade lol. I could've said that. He can however play lights out defense and is a tough minded player-just the thing you need when you plan on featuring someone like Herro and Robinson.
Him and Giddey then whatever picks are needed to bridge the gap. I thought about adding in there Dieng or other young guys as well but figured they wouldn't get much run time with J³ and Jovic already there.
PS: Dort would start for you guys IMO.
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Slim Charless wrote:BBallFreak wrote:Slim Charless wrote:
Dort played fantastic defense on Luka.... you don't think he can do the same to Tatum/Brown? Among others, and is only 26. You have no need for players like that?
Sure, he could play for us, but we already have Herro, Robinson, Jaquez, and now Giddey. That's not including Highsmith and Martin who we'd love to keep. And Richardson who might stay. In other words, he'd be one of many and I'm not looking at him as a guy we need to get in a trade for Jimmy Butler. It's bad roster construction.
Well obviously he's not the key part to the trade lol. I could've said that. He can however play lights out defense and is a tough minded player-just the thing you need when you plan on featuring someone like Herro and Robinson.
Him and Giddey then whatever picks are needed to bridge the gap. I thought about adding in there Dieng or other young guys as well but figured they wouldn't get much run time with J³ and Jovic already there.
PS: Dort would start for you guys IMO.
You're entitled to your opinion of course but I don't share it. I don't see how he gets past Herro, Robinson, or Jaquez. Maybe if you trade one of Herro or Robinson away, but I'm not seeing it.
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I think they should tear it all down.
Trade Bam + Duncan to OKC for Cason, Giddey, Williams, #12, 3-4 future FRP
Trade Butler to PHI for 3-4 future FRP
Trade Herro to a cap space team for a future perennially protected LP
Trade Bam + Duncan to OKC for Cason, Giddey, Williams, #12, 3-4 future FRP
Trade Butler to PHI for 3-4 future FRP
Trade Herro to a cap space team for a future perennially protected LP
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Flash4thewin wrote:Honest question, what is Herro’s trade value? It can’t be high considering his injury history and subpar playoff performances.
Anfernee Simons tier value
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I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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BlazersBroncos wrote:I think they should tear it all down.
Trade Bam + Duncan to OKC for Cason, Giddey, Williams, #12, 3-4 future FRP
Trade Butler to PHI for 3-4 future FRP
Trade Herro to a cap space team for a future perennially protected LP
Seems like the value is a bit off on that OKC trade.
Miami is the best drafting team in the NBA and arguably the most desirable destination for FA's. give them picks + space
Trade 1:
OKC receives:Bam
CHA receives: Giddey
MIA receives: cap space + 4 picks (HOU 2024 #12, HOU/LAC 2025, PHI 2025, LAC 2027) + 2 picks returned (MIA 2025, MIA 2027)
Trade 2:
PHI receives: Butler
MIA receives: cap space + 3 picks (worst of LAC/OKC/PHI 2026, LAC 2029, PHI 2030) + 1 swap (LAC 2028)
2024: own (#15), HOU #12
2025: own, HOU (top 10) /LAC (unprotected), PHI (top 6)
2026: own, worst of LAC/OKC/PHI
2027: own, LAC,
2028: own (LAC swap)
2029: own, LAC
2030: own, PHI
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