KD to Atlanta for Murray, Markkanen PHX/Atl/Utah/Chi

[giberish]

Phoenix trades: KD, #22 for Murray, Markkanen

Phoenix trades KD for better youth and depth. Lauri gives them a replacement star forward while Murray fills their PG hole. They obviously get very expensive in a year unless they can dump Beal but you can't solve everything in one deal. They do end up with a Booker/Markkanen/Murray core that should keep them relevant through their extensive pick debt.

Atlanta trades: Murray, Hunter, Capella, Griffin, #1 for KD

Atlanta pushes in for a big win-now move adding KD. Young/Bogs/KD/Johnson/OO is a very strong starting 5. Depth will be an issue but they should have a few guys.

Utah trades: Markkanen for Ball, Capella, Griffin, #1, #12

Utah picks a direction and rebuilds getting the #1 overall, a second lotto pick and a secondary prospect. As they're moving Lauri they don't need to keep cap space free for an extend and trade so they take on some extra money to maximize value.

Chicago trades: Ball, #12 for Hunter, #22

Chicago adds Hunter as an insurance forward. Williams is a FA and DDR is a UFA so there's a chance one won't be back, and even if they do both return having a 3rd solid forward option will help them win a few more games (compared to Ball likely not playing).

[Chinook]

I don't like the Hawks part. ATL is not a win-now team. It doesn't matter how much they want to be. They need to just use their pick, trade one of their guards and keep it pushing. KD for first-overall is questionable, but they're then forgoing Murray's return, moving a recent prospect and taking on a bunch of money in this exchange. As a Spurs fan who can see this blowing up all the way from Texas, I don't mind the gamble. But for Atlanta's sake, they shouldn't take this deal.

While a lot of Jazz fans may balk at Mark for 1, I think it's good value for them, especially adding in 12. They're also getting expirings and a prospect.

Chicago, I don't like. They should be trying to tech into at least a soft rebuild, and dropping down so far in the draft and taking on money for a shaky player like Hunter feels wrong. Hunter should be attainable later in the summer if the need arises, and there are a number of forwards in the middle of the first they could go for. The Bulls should be active on draft night trying to see if they can trick a team into taking Lavine. At this point, their plan should be to start putting something together around White and Dosunmu, not trying to compete.

The Suns somehow taking on more salary is almost comical. I personally think they should keep 22 to add needed depth, maybe trade it for a bunch of seconds worst case. If they hadn't done the Beal trade, this would be a good move to get younger and respec around Booker. With that $160M/3 hanging over their heads, it's just another path to the darkside. I'd probably like this type of return for Booker rather than Durant, especially given the extra firsts that would accompany that swap. Beal is going to be a starting two-guard, and running Murray, Beal, Markkanen, Durant, Capella (swapped for Nurkic) at least spreads out the way the guys score. Then if they're still struggling with "one-ball syndrome", they can make another move for more role-players and prospects and try to have a future. I don't think the Suns can call themselves contenders after this trade, so I don't think it's worth doing.

[BadWolf]

I don't think KD or Markanne are worth that much.

[babyjax13]

I think we can do better. The first pick in this draft has more value than the 12th, for sure, but it isn't a massive gap. It is just such a bad draft up front I would rather deal with another team who could send future picks.

[ChettheJet]

I think the Bulls have enough certainty about resigning Williams or if they want to resign DeRozan to not gamble on the consistently injured Hunter while moving DOWN 11 slots in the draft and giving up completely on Lonzo Ball coming back, which he sounds like he can. Awful

[Texas Chuck]

I don't think KD or Markanne are worth that much.

agree,

And think its wild that one year of a good, but not superstar player is being valued over the #1 overall pick, another lottery pick, a moderate prospect and a very playable expiring and a dead expiring.

Now I can see the argument of course for keeping and building around him. I can't see a compelling argument for Utah being due more value.

[jazzfan1971]

I don't think KD or Markanne are worth that much.

agree,

And think its wild that one year of a good, but not superstar player is being valued over the #1 overall pick, another lottery pick, a moderate prospect and a very playable expiring and a dead expiring.

Now I can see the argument of course for keeping and building around him. I can't see a compelling argument for Utah being due more value.

I think the value is fine in an average draft. I just feel like trading into this draft is trading a cow for a handful of magic beans. I want no part of this draft.

[Texas Chuck]

In a typical draft with a clear cut #1 prospect Utah could never get that pick for Lauri. Much less ask for goodies on top. One year versus 4 years rookie scale plus restricted rights. One year, guys.

[jredsaz]

Phoenix trades: KD, #22 for Murray, Markkanen

Phoenix trades KD for better youth and depth. Lauri gives them a replacement star forward while Murray fills their PG hole. They obviously get very expensive in a year unless they can dump Beal but you can't solve everything in one deal. They do end up with a Booker/Markkanen/Murray core that should keep them relevant through their extensive pick debt.

Atlanta trades: Murray, Hunter, Capella, Griffin, #1 for KD

Atlanta pushes in for a big win-now move adding KD. Young/Bogs/KD/Johnson/OO is a very strong starting 5. Depth will be an issue but they should have a few guys.

Utah trades: Markkanen for Ball, Capella, Griffin, #1, #12

Utah picks a direction and rebuilds getting the #1 overall, a second lotto pick and a secondary prospect. As they're moving Lauri they don't need to keep cap space free for an extend and trade so they take on some extra money to maximize value.

Chicago trades: Ball, #12 for Hunter, #22

Chicago adds Hunter as an insurance forward. Williams is a FA and DDR is a UFA so there's a chance one won't be back, and even if they do both return having a 3rd solid forward option will help them win a few more games (compared to Ball likely not playing).

Don’t see this happening but very elegant four way deal. It’s probably an overpay for Lauri but that’s reportedly what it will take to get him out of Utah. Nice work.

[jazzfan1971]

In a typical draft with a clear cut #1 prospect Utah could never get that pick for Lauri. Much less ask for goodies on top. One year versus 4 years rookie scale plus restricted rights. One year, guys.

This is true.

I wasn't saying the value was wrong as much as I was saying I didn't like the form of the value. Maybe some other team is drooling over this package and would deliver me things I like better?

[AingesBurner]

I just don’t get this for Utah? So we have 5 picks in an absolutely terrible draft?

[SkyHook]

I just don’t get this for Utah? So we have 5 picks in an absolutely terrible draft?

Seconded.

[jredsaz]

I just don’t get this for Utah? So we have 5 picks in an absolutely terrible draft?

I think Utah would probably make further trades. I will say that in a draft like this it’s better to have multiple picks than one pick. Giannis and Gobert were 15 and 27 in 2013. That was a weird, considered to be bad draft.

[AingesBurner]

I just don’t get this for Utah? So we have 5 picks in an absolutely terrible draft?

I think Utah would probably make further trades. I will say that in a draft like this it’s better to have multiple picks than one pick. Giannis and Gobert were 15 and 27 in 2013. That was a weird, considered to be bad draft.

I agree but those guys turning out to be as good as they were? Kind of a miracle.

[AingesBurner]

I also wouldn’t want the #1 pick. More #1s bust because of pressure.

[jredsaz]

I just don’t get this for Utah? So we have 5 picks in an absolutely terrible draft?

I think Utah would probably make further trades. I will say that in a draft like this it’s better to have multiple picks than one pick. Giannis and Gobert were 15 and 27 in 2013. That was a weird, considered to be bad draft.

I agree but those guys turning out to be as good as they were? Kind of a miracle.

My point is there are good players in every draft.

[AingesBurner]

I think Utah would probably make further trades. I will say that in a draft like this it’s better to have multiple picks than one pick. Giannis and Gobert were 15 and 27 in 2013. That was a weird, considered to be bad draft.

I agree but those guys turning out to be as good as they were? Kind of a miracle.

My point is there are good players in every draft.

True but those guys were outside of the lottery, lower risk and higher reward.

[Slim Charless]

I also wouldn’t want the #1 pick. More #1s bust because of pressure.

This is such a wildly silly statement. Because you're scared of it not working, you don't want the #1 overall pick? I mean if you're scared of picks busting then the best course of action is to sell your firsts. That, or you know trust your scouting dept.

You most certainly wouldn't get the #1 overall pick for Lauri in any other year. Much less getting stuff on top of it.

[babyjax13]

I don't think KD or Markanne are worth that much.

agree,

And think its wild that one year of a good, but not superstar player is being valued over the #1 overall pick, another lottery pick, a moderate prospect and a very playable expiring and a dead expiring.

Now I can see the argument of course for keeping and building around him. I can't see a compelling argument for Utah being due more value.

I'm not sure we are due more value since he is expiring, but the obvious answer if we don't like offers is to R+E him then trade him next summer. I far prefer that to the first pick in this draft.

[AingesBurner]

I also wouldn’t want the #1 pick. More #1s bust because of pressure.

This is such a wildly silly statement. Because you're scared of it not working, you don't want the #1 overall pick? I mean if you're scared of picks busting then the best course of action is to sell your firsts. That, or you know trust your scouting dept.

You most certainly wouldn't get the #1 overall pick for Lauri in any other year. Much less getting stuff on top of it.

You hope the #1 pick this year is as good as Lauri. Players selected #1 in weak drafts tend to disappoint. 50% of number picks over the last 20 years were busts, 2 were MVPs, and the remaining were all stars. Keep Lauri who is an all star or have a 50% chance at a bust… I’ll keep Lauri.