Wendell Carter’s Trade Value

Billy035 · Post #1 » by **Billy035** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:21 am

I am curious as to what the Magic could get for Wendell Carter. Although he fits the team reasonably well, he is our biggest tradeable contract.

Skybox · Post #2 » by **Skybox** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 12:00 pm

I'm in NO rush to move WCJ - even though I put him out there in trade offers daily :lol:

Based on what I consider the uninformed responses about him tend to be...keep him. I also consider him our most valuable, win-now, but still young trade asset for a lot of reasons. I also feel like he's way more versatile than he'll ever really get to show with our two 6'10 unicorns in the frontcourt. Fit-wise, I think ORL might be better served with a simple brute like Claxton, Jarrett Allen, or Gafford. Jalen Duren is a young raw guy I imagine Mosely could mold into a defensive nightmare...I also wonder if WCJ could be a much more prominent player on another team - where he could really show all of his capabilities on both ends.

Teams like OKC and MEM and SAS and WAS or even LAL or GSW that could use a bigger body in the middle (even if at PF) would benefit from him, but I really don't see why ORL would even entertain a trade for picks or prospects. I'd only move WCJ if I had Claxton's handshake on a FA deal and WCJ was helping us upgrade our backcourt significantly. ORL is definitely in a strong position with no need to move him, no need to gather draft assets, and certainly no need to cut salary as he is on, arguably, the most team-friendly deal in the league.

WCJ doesn't end up on the daily highlights with blocks above the rim, but he's a very capable defender and moves exceptionally well on the perimeter for a guy his size. He's smart, can pass, finish PnR, shoot 3's comfortably, is apparently one of the most well-liked personalities, and would collect 10+ rpg on a team that didn't spread them around like ORL (he's done it before).

I like him for ATL (as part of a Murray trade)...we could take back Capela, who is capable but aging out, and WCJ could work with Sarr and/or Okongwu. Ultimately, as Sarr develops and gets stronger, WCJ (who's only 25) slides to PF. I'd say WCJ is a guy who makes any team better. IF there's no BIG trade for him, even if we signed a Claxton, I'd be very happy to keep him and play him 25+ mins backing up the 4 and 5 spots.

kds92 · Post #3 » by **kds92** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 3:38 pm

A mid-to-late first. Have to imagine he'll be moved in a larger deal though.

Strengths: Young, great contract, can shoot the 3 well, versatile defender (can guard the P&R and can guard bigs like Jokic)
Weaknesses: Injury history, not a true rim protector (which some teams are looking for)

DowJones · Post #4 » by **DowJones** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 3:41 pm

For the right team I could see him fetching a lottery protected 1st.

Post #5 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 3:43 pm

I agree with the two posters above, but was afraid of being labeled the misinformed so I wasn't going to say anything lol.

Billy035 · Post #6 » by **Billy035** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 3:56 pm

Skybox wrote:I'm in NO rush to move WCJ - even though I put him out there in trade offers daily

Based on what I consider the uninformed responses about him tend to be...keep him. I also consider him our most valuable, win-now, but still young trade asset for a lot of reasons. I also feel like he's way more versatile than he'll ever really get to show with our two 6'10 unicorns in the frontcourt. Fit-wise, I think ORL might be better served with a simple brute like Claxton, Jarrett Allen, or Gafford. Jalen Duren is a young raw guy I imagine Mosely could mold into a defensive nightmare...I also wonder if WCJ could be a much more prominent player on another team - where he could really show all of his capabilities on both ends.

Teams like OKC and MEM and SAS and WAS or even LAL or GSW that could use a bigger body in the middle (even if at PF) would benefit from him, but I really don't see why ORL would even entertain a trade for picks or prospects. I'd only move WCJ if I had Claxton's handshake on a FA deal and WCJ was helping us upgrade our backcourt significantly. ORL is definitely in a strong position with no need to move him, no need to gather draft assets, and certainly no need to cut salary as he is on, arguably, the most team-friendly deal in the league.

WCJ doesn't end up on the daily highlights with blocks above the rim, but he's a very capable defender and moves exceptionally well on the perimeter for a guy his size. He's smart, can pass, finish PnR, shoot 3's comfortably, is apparently one of the most well-liked personalities, and would collect 10+ rpg on a team that didn't spread them around like ORL (he's done it before).

I like him for ATL (as part of a Murray trade)...we could take back Capela, who is capable but aging out, and WCJ could work with Sarr and/or Okongwu. Ultimately, as Sarr develops and gets stronger, WCJ (who's only 25) slides to PF. I'd say WCJ is a guy who makes any team better. IF there's no BIG trade for him, even if we signed a Claxton, I'd be very happy to keep him and play him 25+ mins backing up the 4 and 5 spots.

So, I don’t disagree at all. I am not overly excited to trade Wendell either and I think he is a very under-rated player. However, I think Orlando may be best served to try to sign Nic Claxton who is a better defender/ rim protector. Then they can use Wendell’s contract to trade for a guard like Anfernee Simons or Dejounte Murray.

Colbinii · Post #7 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 4:02 pm

A pick in the 20s. New York Knicks make sense if they lose Hartenstein.

Hoops23 · Post #8 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 4:15 pm

Herro for WCJ and 2025 FRP from denver

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 4:21 pm

I really like him on OKC.

mademan · Post #10 » by **mademan** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 4:28 pm

I think he's an ideal backup big that is a good enough shooter to soak up some minutes with a few other C's in this league. I think NY should be open to moving both 24 and 25th picks for him if IH walks tho i dont think ORL is selling him for picks (unless theyre the ones poaching IH)

Wizenheimer · Post #11 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 5:40 pm

Skybox wrote:I'm in NO rush to move WCJ - even though I put him out there in trade offers daily

Based on what I consider the uninformed responses about him tend to be...keep him. I also consider him our most valuable, win-now, but still young trade asset for a lot of reasons. I also feel like he's way more versatile than he'll ever really get to show with our two 6'10 unicorns in the frontcourt. Fit-wise, I think ORL might be better served with a simple brute like Claxton, Jarrett Allen, or Gafford. Jalen Duren is a young raw guy I imagine Mosely could mold into a defensive nightmare...I also wonder if WCJ could be a much more prominent player on another team - where he could really show all of his capabilities on both ends.

Teams like OKC and MEM and SAS and WAS or even LAL or GSW that could use a bigger body in the middle (even if at PF) would benefit from him, but I really don't see why ORL would even entertain a trade for picks or prospects. I'd only move WCJ if I had Claxton's handshake on a FA deal and WCJ was helping us upgrade our backcourt significantly. ORL is definitely in a strong position with no need to move him, no need to gather draft assets, and certainly no need to cut salary as he is on, arguably, the most team-friendly deal in the league.

WCJ doesn't end up on the daily highlights with blocks above the rim, but he's a very capable defender and moves exceptionally well on the perimeter for a guy his size. He's smart, can pass, finish PnR, shoot 3's comfortably, is apparently one of the most well-liked personalities, and would collect 10+ rpg on a team that didn't spread them around like ORL (he's done it before).

I like him for ATL (as part of a Murray trade)...we could take back Capela, who is capable but aging out, and WCJ could work with Sarr and/or Okongwu. Ultimately, as Sarr develops and gets stronger, WCJ (who's only 25) slides to PF. I'd say WCJ is a guy who makes any team better. IF there's no BIG trade for him, even if we signed a Claxton, I'd be very happy to keep him and play him 25+ mins backing up the 4 and 5 spots.

given up on Simons to Orlando for WCJ?

as a Blazer fan, I think a lot of other Blazer fans overrate Simons; or at the very least, underrate his flaws. But one thing he's good at is shooting and scoring and it sure looked like Orlando needed some of that from their guards this season

Simons + #34 for WCJ + a future lottery-protected 1st? theoretically Orlando could have the cap-space for an unbalanced trade in July; although I doubt they are willing to renounce Fultz so maybe not

Astaluego · Post #12 » by **Astaluego** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 6:03 pm

I like it for the Kings...if they want to compete with the best teams in the division, they will have to get bigger...

Huerter+FRP(protected) future for WCJ+ 1 or 2 SRP..

The Magic gets a good shooter, of good size and an asset to continue working

Post #13 » by **coldfish** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:02 pm

Vucevic?

babyjax13 · Post #14 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:07 pm

A pick from 11-19 would be my guess in this draft. If New Orleans kept 17 (they obviously did the right thing) that could have been interesting.

QMemphis · Post #15 » by **QMemphis** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:14 pm

Grizz offer Luke Kennard/#9 for WCJ/#18

Ducklett · Post #16 » by **Ducklett** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:45 pm

QMemphis wrote:Grizz offer Luke Kennard/#9 for WCJ/#18

This would make an interesting thread all in it's own, I think.

Magic get to move up and get a guy in Kennard who can hold the line while they let Black and Jett fight for the spot. This would be assuming that they pretty much knew that Nic Claxton was signing with the Magic. Who would the Magic take at 9 though? Would they use 9 to get a different player?

Post #17 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:53 pm

Colbinii wrote:A pick in the 20s. New York Knicks make sense if they lose Hartenstein.

Think he could get both the protected firsts NY owns? Major risk neither conveys, but huge upside if either conveys late…. Not sure myself, but a curious idea.

QMemphis · Post #18 » by **QMemphis** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:57 pm

Ducklett wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Grizz offer Luke Kennard/#9 for WCJ/#18

This would make an interesting thread all in it's own, I think.

Magic get to move up and get a guy in Kennard who can hold the line while they let Black and Jett fight for the spot. This would be assuming that they pretty much knew that Nic Claxton was signing with the Magic. Who would the Magic take at 9 though? Would they use 9 to get a different player?

They should use 9 to get the PG they want in a trade whether that be Garland/Murray/Trae/Simons that’s up to them.

Colbinii · Post #19 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:57 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Colbinii wrote:A pick in the 20s. New York Knicks make sense if they lose Hartenstein.

Think he could get both the protected firsts NY owns? Major risk neither conveys, but huge upside if either conveys late…. Not sure myself, but a curious idea.

Maybe New York does #25 + #38?

Post #20 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:32 am

I think the only way he gets moved for a pick outside of the lottery in this draft is if the Magic need to clear more cap space for someone who they know is coming.

I just don't see playoff teams moving win-now guys for non-lotto firsts absent financial pressure to do so. There's going to need to be more incentive than that.