Mikal for Cade

NYG · Post #1 » by **NYG** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 11:49 pm

Cade Cunningham for Mikal Bridges

Nets get a player with a higher ceiling to potentially build around
Pistons get the better player currently with the safer floor and familiarity with their coach

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 11:51 pm

This is interesting but I don't see Mikal re-signing with the Pistons.

K_chile22 · Post #3 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:05 am

22.7/7.5/4.3 on 54.6% TS
Vs
19.6/3.6/4.5 on 56% TS

Both number one options on bad teams and would continue to be that after this. Don't see why the pistons would be interested at all.

If they had established talent better than Bridges and a short win now window then it would be worth considering but that... Is not how is describe the pistons. I don't feel particularly great about my pre draft feelings on Cade and still don't get this for Detroit

Kalamazoo317 · Post #4 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:20 am

Older, more expensive Robin for younger, cheaper Robin? I think they'd make an interesting pairing. Trading them for each other is largely treading water on both sides.

mcfly1204 · Post #5 » by **mcfly1204** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:21 am

K_chile22 wrote:22.7/7.5/4.3 on 54.6% TS
Vs
19.6/3.6/4.5 on 56% TS

Both number one options on bad teams and would continue to be that after this. Don't see why the pistons would be interested at all.

If they had established talent better than Bridges and a short win now window then it would be worth considering but that... Is not how is describe the pistons. I don't feel particularly great about my pre draft feelings on Cade and still don't get this for Detroit

That's where I'm at. The reasons Brooklyn would want Cade over Mikal are the same reasons why Detroit does not make this trade.

Post #6 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:23 am

Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Colbinii · Post #7 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:26 am

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Older, more expensive Robin for younger, cheaper Robin? I think they'd make an interesting pairing. Trading them for each other is largely treading water on both sides.

Mikal isn't projecting as a Robin though, more like a #3.

Slim Charless · Post #8 » by **Slim Charless** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:32 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

Post #9 » by **theBigLip** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:52 am

Slim Charless wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I would do Ivey and #5. Duren isn’t a throw in. And both those guys are young and on their rookie deals. Whereas Bridges may have peaked, apparently isn’t a #1 guy, and will want a max deal in two years.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #10 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 1:27 am

Slim Charless wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I'd do that

Colbinii · Post #11 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 1:50 am

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I'd do that

I think you can get Ivey and #5 but not all 3 assets.

Slim Charless · Post #12 » by **Slim Charless** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 2:35 am

Colbinii wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I'd do that

I think you can get Ivey and #5 but not all 3 assets.

That might be an idea. The Nets have a big they need to resign anyways. Brooklyn need a PG and Ivey is better off playing there then off ball.

vege · Post #13 » by **vege** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:47 am

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Yeah, if I’m the Pistons my goal would be to put Cade with Bridges not swap them for one another. There’s probably a good handful of options for Bridges to Detroit that don’t include Cade too.

Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I'd do that

I would do that as well, and I would use part of our cap space to bring in Claxton, since they wouldn't need him anymore.

Cade/Bridges/Ausar/Fontecchio/Claxton is functional, and you have assets to upgrade the 2 or 3 or 4 (cap space)

Grimes and Stew are the bones of a decent bench, so the roster would be in a good spot moving forward.

Cade/Melton/Bridges/Ausar/Claxton with Sasser/Grimes/Fontecchio/Stew would fight for the play in if they stay health most of the season.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #14 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 10:22 am

Detroit doesn’t even consider this.

Devilanche · Post #15 » by **Devilanche** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 11:26 am

Detroit just changed front office . What’s the rush to get mediocre fast ?

jayjaysee · Post #16 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 11:39 am

I wouldn’t blame Detroit for trading a bunch for Bridges.

They will also be able to renegotiate Bridges up to his max next offseason and maintain the asset even if they decide to blow it up in 24 months.

I would not trade Cade for Bridges for Detroit. I don’t think Cade will be a true impact superstar, but without Cade there’s no reason not to tank next year? Cade offers hope still..

Drwho17 · Post #17 » by **Drwho17** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:05 pm

Before last year, Cade coming off the injury/surgery and Bridges coming off the stretch after the trade in Brooklyn, something might have been possible, although probably not. But now, it's not even considered I think, Cade Cunningham was pretty great last year, even with the chaos on the team, and Bridges didn't live up to expectations, looks like he settled into where he is at. So no way, does Detroit trade CC for Bridges, not to mention their ages, next thing for Cade will be the rookie max coming from the Pistons.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #18 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 7:13 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Was just thinking that. Mikal might be fine playing there as Monty is his old coach and the guy that drafted him. Maybe something along the lines of Ivey, Duren, #5 for him?

I'd do that

I think you can get Ivey and #5 but not all 3 assets.

If Mikal's value has really fallen that far that Ivey and #5 get him, we'd be fools not to.

Colbinii · Post #19 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 10:00 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
I'd do that

I think you can get Ivey and #5 but not all 3 assets.

If Mikal's value has really fallen that far that Ivey and #5 get him, we'd be fools not to.

What? Hasn't that always been his value?

Kalamazoo317 · Post #20 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 10:06 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
I think you can get Ivey and #5 but not all 3 assets.

If Mikal's value has really fallen that far that Ivey and #5 get him, we'd be fools not to.

What? Hasn't that always been his value?

Wasn't word on the street that the Nets rejected an offer of Jalen Green and all of their picks from Houston back to them at the trade deadline?

They were scoffing left and right at offers with multiple firsts in the first year or so after they got him.

#5 in this draft is more like #12 in a normal draft, so not insane value, and Ivey is definitely worth a lot less than the day he was drafted, imo. So it's not a superstar package or anything and Mikal's value has definitely been in the "superstar package" range in the not so distance past. Clearly his star has fallen. Great. Lets scoop him up then. He's a great fit with Cade, imo.