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ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#1 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 3:57 pm

There's talk that the Spurs want to get the #1
Hawks need to make win now moves
Nets need to rebuild but don't have any picks

Murray / #1
for
Bridges / #4

#4 / #8 / K Johnson
for
Murray / #1

M Bridges
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#8 / KJ

For me SA needs to add more and send additional assets to Nets and Hawks...how much to make it work?
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#2 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:02 pm

Just nowhere close for Brooklyn.

They’ve reportedly declined #3 for Bridges and I’m on the record saying I wouldn’t trade him for #1 straight up.

I stand by that.
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Post#3 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:07 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Just nowhere close for Brooklyn.

They’ve reportedly declined #3 for Bridges and I’m on the record saying I wouldn’t trade him for #1 straight up.

I stand by that.



Did you see the part where I asked how much more?
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Post#4 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:09 pm

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TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Just nowhere close for Brooklyn.

They’ve reportedly declined #3 for Bridges and I’m on the record saying I wouldn’t trade him for #1 straight up.

I stand by that.



Did you see the part where I asked how much more?


I don’t see Bridges being available for a package where the best asset is #8 in this draft.

What can they offer that’s better?
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Post#5 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:14 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Just nowhere close for Brooklyn.

They’ve reportedly declined #3 for Bridges and I’m on the record saying I wouldn’t trade him for #1 straight up.

I stand by that.



Did you see the part where I asked how much more?


I don’t see Bridges being available for a package where the best asset is #8 in this draft.

What can they offer that’s better?



They have the Hawks FRPs the next 3 years and I suppose their own next year and in 2027. That's 5 FRPs to work with

Might want to consider that Bridges really fell off this season.
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Post#6 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:15 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:

Did you see the part where I asked how much more?


I don’t see Bridges being available for a package where the best asset is #8 in this draft.

What can they offer that’s better?



They have the Hawks FRPs the next 3 years and I suppose their own next year and in 2027. That's 5 FRPs to work with

Might want to consider that Bridges really fell off this season.


I think I would demand #4 and go from there.

But wouldn’t consider it unless we’ve already successfully gotten our 2025 1st back from Houston.
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Post#7 » by Euphonetiks » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:22 pm

I don't understand the point of having SA in this trade. The trade should be Murray/#1 for Bridges with Murray routed to a 3rd team for more assets for the Nets.

Even if you want to sell the narrative that this is a bad draft, Murray is a significant upgrade over KJ and the Spurs aren't really compensating for that.
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Post#8 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:22 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:
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I don’t see Bridges being available for a package where the best asset is #8 in this draft.

What can they offer that’s better?



They have the Hawks FRPs the next 3 years and I suppose their own next year and in 2027. That's 5 FRPs to work with

Might want to consider that Bridges really fell off this season.


I think I would demand #4 and go from there.

But wouldn’t consider it unless we’ve already successfully gotten our 2025 1st back from Houston.


Hawks are giving the two best pieces in the deal; Murray and #1. You might contest that Murray > Bridges, but Bridges had a bad season, is older and Murray is signed to a longer, cheaper contract.
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Post#9 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:26 pm

Euphonetiks wrote:I don't understand the point of having SA in this trade. The trade should be Murray/#1 for Bridges with Murray routed to a 3rd team for more assets for the Nets.

Even if you want to sell the narrative that this is a bad draft, Murray is a significant upgrade over KJ and the Spurs aren't really compensating for that.



Murray is better, younger and cheaper than Bridges today. I agree that Bridges 2022 season was much better, but we're trading now, not last offseason
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#10 » by giberish » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:36 pm

For the Spurs I have #4 + #8 as being slightly more valuable than #1 in this draft (in many others it would be less, far less in a draft like last year but this year doesn't have the guy or guys at the top). That still means that they'd have to add most of the value for Murray in terms of future draft picks (Johnson is filler level, overpaid for the limited role he'd have on a good team, but not that badly overpaid). So then you've got several Hawks picks back to Atlanta and #4 + #8 to Brooklyn.

Of course if both Atlanta and Brooklyn feel that their current guy (Murray vs Bridges) is more valuable than a deal isn't happening.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#11 » by Euphonetiks » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:38 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:I don't understand the point of having SA in this trade. The trade should be Murray/#1 for Bridges with Murray routed to a 3rd team for more assets for the Nets.

Even if you want to sell the narrative that this is a bad draft, Murray is a significant upgrade over KJ and the Spurs aren't really compensating for that.



Murray is better, younger and cheaper than Bridges today. I agree that Bridges 2022 season was much better, but we're trading now, not last offseason


I tend to think Bridges is overrated and probably agree he is not worth #1 + Murray and maybe the Nets need to send something else back, but every indication is that Bridges is highly valued amongst FO's. I think most FO's would have Bridges as more valuable than Murray regardless of last season's stats.

Bridges is a long wing that can space the floor and defend at a high level while providing secondary playmaking. He fits in any system alongside any star. Dejounte is a guard who is his best with the ball in his hands and there are a lot less teams looking for that.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#12 » by Chinook » Wed Jun 5, 2024 6:18 pm

Euphonetiks wrote:I don't understand the point of having SA in this trade. The trade should be Murray/#1 for Bridges with Murray routed to a 3rd team for more assets for the Nets.

Even if you want to sell the narrative that this is a bad draft, Murray is a significant upgrade over KJ and the Spurs aren't really compensating for that.


They are in the sense that they are overpaying for the first pick with the understanding that overage is paying for Murray. Without 1 in the trade, I don't think either 4 or 8 would be on the table for the Spurs in a Murray trade.

I don't think the Spurs would mind being the third time taking Murray in exchange for assets. That would let them reconfigure the package to go to a team on the verge or rebuilding rather than one trying to make a win-now deal.

That said, ATL shouldn't value Bridges like this. It makes more sense for Brooklyn to be cut from this deal and for Atlanta to deal Murray/Young (to SA or another team) without losing their best win-later asset. They are not a win-now team no matter how much they want to be.
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Post#13 » by jayjaysee » Wed Jun 5, 2024 6:33 pm

I think it’d be better to build off just 1 for Bridges and deal with trading a guard later.

Trae/Bridges/Ingram/Jalen/OO type finished lineup or Trae/Bridges/Hunter/Jalen/KAT or such.

If you’re committed to this set up.. I don’t see why Keldon is here? He’s not very good and Brooklyn should prefer cap space.

Let SAS keep their guy and send Brooklyn another first or two.

This mostly feels like Murray for free. Even if you think 4/8 is worth more than 1, it’s not that much more. Even in this terrible draft..
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Post#14 » by wemby » Wed Jun 5, 2024 6:50 pm

Not a fan of sending a bunch of picks for Dejounte.
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Post#15 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 7:16 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
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They have the Hawks FRPs the next 3 years and I suppose their own next year and in 2027. That's 5 FRPs to work with

Might want to consider that Bridges really fell off this season.


I think I would demand #4 and go from there.

But wouldn’t consider it unless we’ve already successfully gotten our 2025 1st back from Houston.


Hawks are giving the two best pieces in the deal; Murray and #1. You might contest that Murray > Bridges, but Bridges had a bad season, is older and Murray is signed to a longer, cheaper contract.


Even after his bad season and with his contract being shorter, I have Bridges having better trade value than Murray.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#16 » by One_and_Done » Wed Jun 5, 2024 11:12 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:There's talk that the Spurs want to get the #1
Hawks need to make win now moves
Nets need to rebuild but don't have any picks

Murray / #1
for
Bridges / #4

#4 / #8 / K Johnson
for
Murray / #1

M Bridges
for
#8 / KJ

For me SA needs to add more and send additional assets to Nets and Hawks...how much to make it work?

Your living up to your user name. This deal absolutely jobs Brooklyn. No way they do it.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#17 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jun 5, 2024 11:29 pm

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tbhawksfan1 wrote:There's talk that the Spurs want to get the #1
Hawks need to make win now moves
Nets need to rebuild but don't have any picks

Murray / #1
for
Bridges / #4

#4 / #8 / K Johnson
for
Murray / #1

M Bridges
for
#8 / KJ

For me SA needs to add more and send additional assets to Nets and Hawks...how much to make it work?

Your living up to your user name. This deal absolutely jobs Brooklyn. No way they do it.


Why are you being an ass? Especially since clearly you didn't actually read the post you quoted where he says SA needs to add assets to the Nets.

Contribute better than taking shots at people's username and not reading their proposals but still mocking them.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#18 » by One_and_Done » Wed Jun 5, 2024 11:40 pm

Let me rephrase then. I think there is zero chance the Nets move Bridges for picks this offseason.
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Re: ATL / SA / BROOK 

Post#19 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:55 pm

I''d probably do this deal - Spurs get an all-star PG back and get whomever they want out of the draft. Wish Murray was a few years younger but this is a solid deal for SA

For Brooklyn though I don't see it. I wouldn't trade Bridges for an 8th pick, let alone in a terrible draft class
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Post#20 » by tbhawksfan1 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:33 pm

Bornstellar wrote:I''d probably do this deal - Spurs get an all-star PG back and get whomever they want out of the draft. Wish Murray was a few years younger but this is a solid deal for SA

For Brooklyn though I don't see it. I wouldn't trade Bridges for an 8th pick, let alone in a terrible draft class



So how much more are you willing to trade to make it happen? BROOK and ATL need more to do this deal...especially Brook

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