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Was reading some proposals on the forum and playing with the Knicks cap book..
This would have to be a draft night trade:

Detroit trades:
5th Pick
Jaden Ivey

Detroit receives:
Julius Randle
Luke Kennard
9th Pick

Detroit adds Randle who lifts there floor, moving on from Ivey. Moving down 4 picks in this draft but absorb some salary.

Memphis trades:
9th Pick
Luke Kennard

Memphis receives:
Mitchell Robinson
24th Pick

Memphis moves down in the draft but gets the athletic big they've been looking for on a reasonable contract.

New York trades:
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
24th Pick

New York receives:
5th Pick
Jaden Ivey

Ivey is a young player they pursued heavily at the draft and they get to draft their center of the future in Clingan at 5.
So why would NY do this? Rebuilding?? I think not.
They create an almost $40mil trade exception and with that, they acquire Demar Derozan on a 3 year 90mil contract in a sign and trade with the Bulls.
Demar vs Randle on the court. You can argue Demar provides more.
Still have a ton of fungible salary and Ivey and Clingan are 2 great trade pieces as well.

iHart/Clingan
OG/Bogey
Demar/Hart
DDV/Ivey
Brunson/McBride

They can also cut Bogeys non-guranteed salary and sign someone for the MLE (Caleb Martin, Saddiq Bey)

Robinson is not worth anywhere near the OP's valuation.

Godaddycurse wrote:Robinson is not worth anywhere near the OP's valuation.

How far off? Are we talking a protected 2025 making a difference here?

Mitchell Robinson is coming off a serious injury. He doesn't have the value Knicks fans think he does.

BowlRips wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Robinson is not worth anywhere near the OP's valuation.

How far off? Are we talking a protected 2025 making a difference here?

i think robinson is neutral value at best so it would require more than a late/protected 2025 1st to make up difference to me.

beyond that, receiving derozan in S&T hardcaps knicks at 1st apron which means they have to give up bogey and likely wont have MLE available.

Godaddycurse wrote:

BowlRips wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:Robinson is not worth anywhere near the OP's valuation.

How far off? Are we talking a protected 2025 making a difference here?

i think robinson is neutral value at best so it would require more than a late/protected 2025 1st to make up difference to me.

beyond that, receiving derozan in S&T hardcaps knicks at 1st apron which means they have to give up bogey and likely wont have MLE available.

The TPE would still be useful to NYK as long as they have a target in mind who does not require a S&T

On the valuations, I think it might be closer if you took all the picks out

On direction for DET, I'm torn. I think Randle would make a difference, but I think it would be short-sighted. Definitely don't want to do it if it involves moving down in the draft -- I want to use our cap space to add draft assets, not subtract

oldncreaky wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

BowlRips wrote:
How far off? Are we talking a protected 2025 making a difference here?

i think robinson is neutral value at best so it would require more than a late/protected 2025 1st to make up difference to me.

beyond that, receiving derozan in S&T hardcaps knicks at 1st apron which means they have to give up bogey and likely wont have MLE available.

The TPE would still be useful to NYK as long as they have a target in mind who does not require a S&T

On the valuations, I think it might be closer if you took all the picks out

On direction for DET, I'm torn. I think Randle would make a difference, but I think it would be short-sighted. Definitely don't want to do it if it involves moving down in the draft -- I want to use our cap space to add draft assets, not subtract

If the Pistons are coughing up what is essentially two #5 picks, I want more value then what I perceive as NBA chaos, in Randle.

Kennard and a couple 2nds is where I have MRob. MRob injury history would require us to roster a 2nd rotation quality center too, not an ideal target.