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NOP/PDX 

Post#1 » by ZionWembanyama » Fri Jun 7, 2024 11:52 am

Nawlins outgoing:

#21

PDX outgoing:

#34
#40
Right to swap 2028 FRP's.


Nawlins:

Trusting staff to continue to draft well and find two gems in the second round for cheaper rookie deals.


PDX:

Adds a better talented player to help the rebuild.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#2 » by Colbinii » Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:36 pm

Interesting idea. Portland would need 2 things.

1) Protection on the Swap
2) Love a player at #21, so someone falls to them they value highly
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#3 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:17 pm

No way I do this with the swap.

I think 34 and 40 alone can get into the late R1. Could see NYK moving 25 to avoid the gtd $ and taking a stash guy with one of the SRP.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#4 » by Colbinii » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:20 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:No way I do this with the swap.

I think 34 and 40 alone can get into the late R1. Could see NYK moving 25 to avoid the gtd $ and taking a stash guy with one of the SRP.


No shot, New York already picks at #38.

But, #31 was traded for #34 and #39 last year. So, maybe you can get to #30? But you aren't getting up to #25.

Keep dreaming :lol:
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#5 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:52 pm

Colbinii wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:No way I do this with the swap.

I think 34 and 40 alone can get into the late R1. Could see NYK moving 25 to avoid the gtd $ and taking a stash guy with one of the SRP.


No shot, New York already picks at #38.

But, #31 was traded for #34 and #39 last year. So, maybe you can get to #30? But you aren't getting up to #25.

Keep dreaming :lol:


Ya that may have been a bridge too far - fine w/ simply getting up to 30. Forgot NYK had that 38 pick too.

I could see MIN or DEN moving down to reduce salary, using 34 on a rostered player and 40 on a stash.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#6 » by DiegoChara » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:05 pm

Colbinii wrote:Interesting idea. Portland would need 2 things.

1) Protection on the Swap
2) Love a player at #21, so someone falls to them they value highly


Agreed on both of these caveats for Portland.
Top 12 protection on the swap?
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#7 » by Waynearchetype » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:24 pm

No shot with the swap, why would Portland do that in a weak draft? 2 early 2nds should be enough, and a future 2nd can be added to grease the wheels. No way they add in a swap for a late first though, especially when they have zero idea when they will be good again.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#8 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Jun 7, 2024 10:04 pm

this trade is DOA with the swap
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#9 » by JRoy » Fri Jun 7, 2024 10:13 pm

A rebuilding team has no business swapping FRP for a tiny upgrade like this.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#10 » by Myth » Sat Jun 8, 2024 2:19 am

Yep, swap kills it. Can’t risk giving up a better pick in a better draft. Is there a player Pels would line to include from Portland instead?
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#11 » by Norm2953 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:20 am

How about offering one of the pick swaps from Milwaukee?
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#12 » by Wizenheimer » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:48 am

Norm2953 wrote:How about offering one of the pick swaps from Milwaukee?


that would be dumb. They couldn't offer the 2028 swap because it could belong to Chicago

so it would have to be the 2030 swap. Dame will be 39; Lopez will be 41; Middleton will be 38; and Giannis will be 35. Milwaukee might be high up in the lottery by then...in a much better draft than this one. Why risk that for the 21st pick in a bad draft?
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#13 » by Norm2953 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:31 am

Wizenheimer wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:How about offering one of the pick swaps from Milwaukee?


that would be dumb. They couldn't offer the 2028 swap because it could belong to Chicago

so it would have to be the 2030 swap. Dame will be 39; Lopez will be 41; Middleton will be 38; and Giannis will be 35. Milwaukee might be high up in the lottery by then...in a much better draft than this one. Why risk that for the 21st pick in a bad draft?


Actually pick 21 should be a solid pick in a 2024 draft that is full of juniors and seniors. Guys like Desilva,
Carter, Furphy, Holmes, George, Tyson, Dunn, etc will all fall in late teens to early second round, who
have had time in college to learn how to play.

Portland which has four picks in the 2024 draft and its quite possible their picks at 14, 34 and 40 will
greatly outplay their pick at 7, who likely will see some time in the G League next season.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#14 » by Blazers20 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:10 am

I’d keep 34 and 40 and swing for the fences, I’d like to target a couple of Euros Pacome Dadiet, Melvin Ajinca, Nikola Djursic or Izam Almansa.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#15 » by Wizenheimer » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:47 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
Spoiler:
Norm2953 wrote:How about offering one of the pick swaps from Milwaukee?


that would be dumb. They couldn't offer the 2028 swap because it could belong to Chicago

so it would have to be the 2030 swap. Dame will be 39; Lopez will be 41; Middleton will be 38; and Giannis will be 35. Milwaukee might be high up in the lottery by then...in a much better draft than this one. Why risk that for the 21st pick in a bad draft?


Actually pick 21 should be a solid pick in a 2024 draft that is full of juniors and seniors. Guys like Desilva,
Carter, Furphy, Holmes, George, Tyson, Dunn, etc will all fall in late teens to early second round, who
have had time in college to learn how to play.


ok...that's possible. But it would still be the 21st pick in a weak draft

the swap you're wanting to use as leverage to get that 21st pick could be the #1 pick in a strong draft
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#16 » by jayjaysee » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:57 pm

I think this is asking a lot for 21 even if you found a win now team.

Milwaukee’s 2028 first is layered with Portland’s first..

But 33rd and the 2028 swap for 21st? Still feels great for New Orleans.
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Re: NOP/PDX 

Post#17 » by Norm2953 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 6:20 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
Spoiler:
that would be dumb. They couldn't offer the 2028 swap because it could belong to Chicago

so it would have to be the 2030 swap. Dame will be 39; Lopez will be 41; Middleton will be 38; and Giannis will be 35. Milwaukee might be high up in the lottery by then...in a much better draft than this one. Why risk that for the 21st pick in a bad draft?


Actually pick 21 should be a solid pick in a 2024 draft that is full of juniors and seniors. Guys like Desilva,
Carter, Furphy, Holmes, George, Tyson, Dunn, etc will all fall in late teens to early second round, who
have had time in college to learn how to play.


ok...that's possible. But it would still be the 21st pick in a weak draft

the swap you're wanting to use as leverage to get that 21st pick could be the #1 pick in a strong draft


That's the thing, nobody knows if the 2030 draft will be a strong draft but I would suspect with NIL money in
college, guys have more incentive to stay in school and those guys will get better coaching in college as opposed
to unstructured coaching in the G League.

This group of college juniors and seniors is much deeper thanks to the Covid years and there might be 10 Jaime
Jacquez types in this draft to offer up immediate help to an NBA team.

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