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Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:20 pm
by Astaluego
MAVS
In:M.Bridges ST(starts at 23 million?) Out:THJ/Green/O.Max/Mavs25/Hornets 28 SRP
Mavs get a 3 scorer, who should fit very well in every way (playing style, age) and (I think) they save enough, to be able to retain DJJ
HORNETS
In:Green/THJ/O-Max/Mavs25/Hornets SRP
Out: Bridges
Hornets charge very well for facilitating the departure of a player who I suspect does not want to be part of a long-term reconstruction and they also charge for taking on some extra money. On the court Green gives them a shooting guard/3D wing young enough to be a long-term piece that should fit perfectly between Ball/Miller and will surely provide better performance with less pressure, O-Max is a decent defensive prospect who should start to pay off this year...THJ could probably return some small asset extra on the deadline...
Why would Bridges do it? Frankly, I think it is an ideal scenario for him, if, as is assumed of a professional, he has a competitive hunger... especially if he is paid... he should push for this to happen...
thoughts..?
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:24 pm
by Godaddycurse
i think bridges push for more money from a cap space team like detroit and philly
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:29 pm
by jbk1234
I think that's a bad idea for Dallas. Bridges is a really poor defender.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:36 pm
by balsamic_ducks
The hornets need to take that offer.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 1:40 pm
by Mavrelous
No interest in Bridges at any price, specifically for the Mavs, they need guards, not forwards, I prefer to invest there.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:03 pm
by jayjaysee
Bridges’ contract is interesting to me.. Like I can see a team guaranteeing him 16-18 mil type on a four year deal and taking the risk to have a nice underpaid starter.. 20-22, you want at least a team option, with the max incentives included in that number.. 25+ you want a lot of unguarantee money.
But some feel he’s getting that or more guaranteed. I just think it will take another year before he gets that type of offer
For Dallas, I don’t mind the target as long as the contract is set up like that. If Charlotte or someone wants to take the risk of him on a contract his per game stats are worth - I’d rather let them.
He’d be an interesting third option here and you can always pair him with one of DJJ/PJ, so doesn’t need to be an elite defender. I don’t think he’s terrible?
The value seems pretty neutral for Charlotte, but that’s all a sign and trade really needs to be? Don’t think Charlotte would be better off with letting Bridges walk, if they want to pay him Dallas never gets a chance to negotiate the sign and trade..
That’s the bar I think teams actually use not demanding firsts, etc.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:45 pm
by brackdan70
I don’t think this helps the Mavs much if at all. Bridges isn’t worth that anyway.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:46 pm
by brackdan70
Though I would say if this truly allows them to keep Jones then that’s huge.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:55 pm
by JustBuzzin
Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:05 pm
by Texas Chuck
JustBuzzin wrote:Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.
If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:12 pm
by JustBuzzin
Texas Chuck wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.
If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
Be prepared to be stunned. He has the best agent in the game. FVF got a max last year. Bridges is in his prime and has been a 20+ppg scorer the last few years.
They declined our offer last year for a reason. Detroit is definitely going to throw him a boatload of money.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:41 pm
by KembaWalker
lol the days of anyone, us or otherwise getting discounted bridges in FA or trade are long gone.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:38 pm
by Apz
Zero intrest in him. Specially with a 1st and omax involved
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:07 pm
by HornetJail
Texas Chuck wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
this is what I think should (and maybe will) happen, but that contract is definitely going to be 9 figures if it's a 4-5 year deal. Which I think Kultch rejects and gets him to sign cheaper 1-2 years, chasing a bigger deal later.
In any case, I'm expecting $25M as a baseline
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:26 pm
by daoneandonly
Dallas isnt giving up a first and OMax for a degenerate like Miles Bridges.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:38 pm
by JustBuzzin
HornetJail wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
this is what I think should (and maybe will) happen, but that contract is definitely going to be 9 figures if it's a 4-5 year deal. Which I think Kultch rejects and gets him to sign cheaper 1-2 years, chasing a bigger deal later.
In any case, I'm expecting $25M as a baseline
Man y'all really sleep on Rich Paul the agent.
Bridges is 26 in the prime of his career. When PG/Siakam/LeBron all return to their current teams you can argue Bridges will be the best available FA.
He's getting at least 30mil per year and I stand on that.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:41 pm
by Texas Chuck
We all stand on our takes. I'm prepared to eat my crow if you are right. But you really think a lot higher of him as a player than I do and way undersell the risk he represents as a guy who has consistent trouble making wise decisions and thinking teams are going to stand by to load him up with gtd money hoping he's finally grown up.
I don't have the talent anywhere near worth the risk. He's basically Keldon Johnson with a bigger name and a whole bunch more baggage.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 9:27 pm
by jbk1234
JustBuzzin wrote:HornetJail wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.
If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
this is what I think should (and maybe will) happen, but that contract is definitely going to be 9 figures if it's a 4-5 year deal. Which I think Kultch rejects and gets him to sign cheaper 1-2 years, chasing a bigger deal later.
In any case, I'm expecting $25M as a baseline
Man y'all really sleep on Rich Paul the agent.
Bridges is 26 in the prime of his career. When PG/Siakam/LeBron all return to their current teams you can argue Bridges will be the best available FA.
He's getting at least 30mil per year and I stand on that.
Rich Paul isn't magic. He can't create a market for a guy that doesn't exist. He can wait all summer and work out a S&T like he did with Sexton, but that wasn't the number Sexton wanted when the summer started.
Miles Bridges is a poor defender who has an awful lot of baggage and there really isn't as much cap space out there as people think. If Detroit's new GM won't give it to him, I think it's going to be difficult to find a team who will.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 9:37 pm
by JustBuzzin
jbk1234 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:HornetJail wrote:this is what I think should (and maybe will) happen, but that contract is definitely going to be 9 figures if it's a 4-5 year deal. Which I think Kultch rejects and gets him to sign cheaper 1-2 years, chasing a bigger deal later.
In any case, I'm expecting $25M as a baseline
Man y'all really sleep on Rich Paul the agent.
Bridges is 26 in the prime of his career. When PG/Siakam/LeBron all return to their current teams you can argue Bridges will be the best available FA.
He's getting at least 30mil per year and I stand on that.
Rich Paul isn't magic. He can't create a market for a guy that doesn't exist. He can wait all summer and work out a S&T like he did with Sexton, but that wasn't the number Sexton wanted when the summer started.
Miles Bridges is a poor defender who has an awful lot of baggage and there really isn't as much cap space out there as people think. If Detroit's new GM won't give it to him, I think it's going to be difficult to find a team who will.
Save this comment Miles Bridges will get at least 30mil per season in FA.
We can agree to disagree on this one.
Re: Mavs/Hornets
Posted: Fri Jun 7, 2024 10:15 pm
by Godaddycurse
HornetJail wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Thinking Bridges will only get 23mil a year is wild.
I'm expecting at least 30mil a year. A lot of teams with cap space.
I'd be stunned if any team but Charlotte offered him any kind of big deal at all. The payoff is not worth the risk to guarantee this guy $120M.
I stand by Charlotte signs him to a deal that looks big in a press release for he and his agent to save face, but has lots of non-gtd money and outs for the team. The Kevin Porter Jr special essentially.If Detroit or another cap space team gives this guy 9 figures what a huge risk. Yikes I'd hate that to be my team.
Want no part of this deal for Dallas at all.
this is what I think should (and maybe will) happen, but that contract is definitely going to be 9 figures if it's a 4-5 year deal. Which I think Kultch rejects and gets him to sign cheaper 1-2 years, chasing a bigger deal later.
In any case, I'm expecting $25M as a baseline
im expecting a chris paul like contract with latter half unguaranteed.