Butler to MEM

[esvl]

Jimmy Butler

for

Luke Kennard
Santi Aldama
Marcus Smart
John Konchar
1 or 2 FRPs (reasonably top protected)

MIA gets Smart to replace Butler’s defence and leadership, together with Aldama who perfectly complements Bam, a couple of good rotation players and picks (if necessary)

MEM relies on Vince W. and Castle (#9) as its POA defenders, while brings a much needed star forward who is arguably in decline but still capable to perform at the highest level.

[Texas Chuck]

I don't have Miami trading Butler for Smart, so yes picks would be necessary you'd have to think. But basically I just don't see Miami going this direction.

Is Memphis prepared to pay Butler what he is going to want or risk him being a problem? Not sure Memphis can afford to pay him and if you don't not sure you want him around.

[babyjax13]

I actually would love a Butler to Memphis trade for both teams, but Memphis really needs to include a lot on top of Smart and filler. The 9th pick has to be included, and if I'm Miami I also want GG Jackson. Smart + filler + Jackson + 9.

[esvl]

I actually would love a Butler to Memphis trade for both teams, but Memphis really needs to include a lot on top of Smart and filler. The 9th pick has to be included, and if I'm Miami I also want GG Jackson. Smart + filler + Jackson + 9.

I am not sure if the difference between Smart and Butler is two lottery picks. Also, Aldama is similar to GG in terms of potential.

[babyjax13]

I actually would love a Butler to Memphis trade for both teams, but Memphis really needs to include a lot on top of Smart and filler. The 9th pick has to be included, and if I'm Miami I also want GG Jackson. Smart + filler + Jackson + 9.

I am not sure if the difference between Smart and Butler is two lottery picks. Also, Aldama is similar to GG in terms of potential.

1. I doubt that non-Memphis fans share that perception of Aldama/GG, so it makes more sense to include GG if you feel that way
2. I don't see two lottery picks in the deal, I see #9 and a future first from a team that will still have Ja/Bane/JJJ, and that team is only missing the playoffs with major injury. Could it be a lottery pick? Obviously, but it probably isn't. GG also played well, but I don't think a team would give a lottery pick for him, even in this draft, though I would not be SHOCKED if a team from 10-14 would.

[JustBuzzin]

Butler in Memphis is damn near unbeatable.

They have to give up GG to get that done imo

[psman2]

I have Butler as a terrible option for us. Old, expensive, cannot shoot anymore, and ornery. I cannot see him on board coming here regardless.

[BBallFreak]

OP is absolutely not getting Jimmy out of Miami. Number 9 has to be included as does GG

[QMemphis]

Butler is a terrible fit as a 3 on the Grizz. Old, decent defender and can’t shoot

[PhillyNj]

This trade is ridiculous. Butler is going to go to whoever he wants to go. The return will be near nothing.

[_GH0ST_]

If we're getting Donovan, I'd also like to get Smart.

In fact, Memphis has some assets that interest Miami and they have a better chance than most of the teams mentioned.

[patman66]

I have Butler as a terrible option for us. Old, expensive, cannot shoot anymore, and ornery. I cannot see him on board coming here regardless.

Agreed, I dont get it at all. Butler is still great, but he is breaking down and wants 200 mill. He is 35 years old this season.

[BBallFreak]

This trade is ridiculous. Butler is going to go to whoever he wants to go. The return will be near nothing.

LOL! Sure...

[brackdan70]

I am sure as part of the trade from Boston a stipulation that Smart can never play for the Heat was part of the deal.

Its not a bad overall trade from a value standpoint for either side, but I just don’t see either team going in this direction

[BBallFreak]

Its not a bad overall trade from a value standpoint for either side, but I just don’t see either team going in this direction

It's terrible, value wise, for Miami. As I said, we're not even listening if GG and 9 aren't included.

[brackdan70]

Its not a bad overall trade from a value standpoint for either side, but I just don’t see either team going in this direction

It's terrible, value wise, for Miami. As I said, we're not even listening if GG and 9 aren't included.

Yes it matters what the picks are for sure. I think it take 2 and one has to be strong one. Either #9 or 2025 with light protection.
I think terrible is a bit of a strong word…we are looking at 2025 Butler not 2021 Butler.
Like I said I don’t love it for either team. It seams a lateral move at best for Miami and taking a really big chance for Memphis.

[BarbaGrizz]

Butler is a terrible fit in Memphis as a past his prime, soon to be overpaid, undersized PF. And I also don´t like his new hair.

[BBallFreak]

Butler is a terrible fit in Memphis as a past his prime, soon to be overpaid, undersized PF. And I also don´t like his new hair.

He's not a power forward. He has never been a power forward more than situationally. That's not his game.

[patman66]

This trade is ridiculous. Butler is going to go to whoever he wants to go. The return will be near nothing.

LOL! Sure...

I look at the Irving trade for comparison. And Irving is younger. They got back a filler in Dinwiddie (who was cut) a solid role player on a MLE type deal and a unprotected 1st 4 years later. both players were/are in walk years. But from a team with a young top 10 player on the roster.

[patman66]

Butler is a terrible fit in Memphis as a past his prime, soon to be overpaid, undersized PF. And I also don´t like his new hair.

He's not a power forward. He has never been a power forward more than situationally. That's not his game.[/quote
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agreed, better matching up against 2s than he is 4s.