Bulls/76ers/Blazers

[Astaluego]

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

BULLS
In:Ayton/Grant/Thybulle/Craig/76ers 26(Top 5p)
Out:Vuc/Lonzo/Caruso/DDR(ST)Blazers FRP

The Bulls reorganize, get younger and get a more valuable pick for them

Ayton/Drummond?
Grant/11/Philips
PWilliams/J.Green?/Terry
Lavine/Thybulle/Bitim
White/Ayo/Carter


76ers
In:AC/DDR(ST)/Craig
Out:FRP26 (top 5 prot)

You get 3 super solid players (at different levels) at a very low price, using your space


BLAZERS
In:Vucevic/Lonzo/Blazers FRP
Out:J.Grant/Ayton/Thybulle

They save a ton of money in the short and long term, open a hole in the squad and recover their selection

[Colbinii]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

[ChettheJet]

If it's legal to include a S&T in with other outgoing players and I don't think so.

I don't know if the Bulls front office sees 2 PORT starters doing much to get them beyond the play in for a win right now roster and that's the goal not sweeping out some guys. They have to resign Williams and if they do they might as well get him the ball and start getting production from him.

Now that's somehow being OK with two more years of Ayton at big money, 3 more for Grant that matches 3 more for Lavine. Especially if it' done by moving Caruso and not even getting a pick. I don't think anybody envisions them as a Big 3 with any team.

For PORT. How does Vucevic coming in make up for the loss of 2/3 of their starting front court, and at this point Lonzo Ball remains a big MAYBE that he can play for the one year left on his contract.

I think it ends up a big Christmas gift with a bright red bow for PHIL, giving up ONE draft pick and getting a near all star in DeRozan an all defensive player in Caruso plus a solid backup in Craig.

I'd find a way for PHIL to give the Bulls something in a S&T for DeRozan.
Then find a simpler way for PORT to take Vucevic and their pick for Ayton.

[Texas Chuck]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

Yeah this could be a lot simpler. Caruso for a future asset is fine. DD as a FA target is fine. Not sure I'd do both, but it can't be that terrible.

Then if Chicago and Portland want to swap a bunch of meh salary around they can I guess.

[youngcrev]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

I assume that's part of the value proposition, creating a large T.E. for Chicago. Otherwise that pick feels pretty light for Caruso.

[Colbinii]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

I assume that's part of the value proposition, creating a large T.E. for Chicago. Otherwise that pick feels pretty light for Caruso.

A lightly protected 1st in 2 years from a team with Embiid/Maxey/DDR as their 3 best players is fine value for Caruso.

[JRoy]

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

BULLS
In:Ayton/Grant/Thybulle/Craig/76ers 26(Top 5p)
Out:Vuc/Lonzo/Caruso/DDR(ST)Blazers FRP

The Bulls reorganize, get younger and get a more valuable pick for them

Ayton/Drummond?
Grant/11/Philips
PWilliams/J.Green?/Terry
Lavine/Thybulle/Bitim
White/Ayo/Carter


76ers
In:AC/DDR(ST)/Craig
Out:FRP26 (top 5 prot)

You get 3 super solid players (at different levels) at a very low price, using your space


BLAZERS
In:Vucevic/Lonzo/Blazers FRP
Out:J.Grant/Ayton/Thybulle

They save a ton of money in the short and long term, open a hole in the squad and recover their selection

Hard no for POR.

That POR FRP is probably going to be a SRP, Lonzos contract is uninsured if traded (I believe) and Vooch is a bad contract.

[Astaluego]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

I assume that's part of the value proposition, creating a large T.E. for Chicago. Otherwise that pick feels pretty light for Caruso.

This, 76ers take AC for helping the Bulls in a ST...many teams would be willing to pay FRP for Alex, especially contenders, it's the way the 76ers win the bid...

[Texas Chuck]

I mean if Chicago wants a TPE in a Derozan move, they just send his team a 2nd round pick or something. It's not a huge value add for Chicago here.

Of course the value for Caruso is already fine. It's just the Portland stuff which is a separate deal clouding all of this.

[the_process]

How about cut everything else out and just make it the 26 OKC 1st top 4 protected for Caruso?

[youngcrev]

Let's just focus on the S+T. Why doesn't Philly just sign Demar on their own?

Caruso/Craig for a 2026 1st is fair, especially with no incoming salary.

Seems horrible for the Blazers.

If the Bulls want to stay on the treadmill, why trade Caruso and give up value in Ball?

I assume that's part of the value proposition, creating a large T.E. for Chicago. Otherwise that pick feels pretty light for Caruso.

A lightly protected 1st in 2 years from a team with Embiid/Maxey/DDR as their 3 best players is fine value for Caruso.

Is that an argument for it being good for the Bulls or the Sixers? I feel like Chicago could easily do better than that. With his skillset and easily matchable salary, pretty much every team in the league that's trying to win would be in on him.

[Texas Chuck]

Sure he's easy to trade for salary wise and he can play 20-25 mpg in a playoff game for you. But he's also got only one year under contract and he's very limited as an offensive player. I know all the noise coming out of Chicago, but I can't imagine a team paying any kind of premium assets for Caruso at this point. 2 playoff runs, maybe they could have gotten 2 protected firsts, but now a pick like this? Seems plenty fine.

[Colbinii]

I assume that's part of the value proposition, creating a large T.E. for Chicago. Otherwise that pick feels pretty light for Caruso.

A lightly protected 1st in 2 years from a team with Embiid/Maxey/DDR as their 3 best players is fine value for Caruso.

Is that an argument for it being good for the Bulls or the Sixers? I feel like Chicago could easily do better than that. With his skillset and easily matchable salary, pretty much every team in the league that's trying to win would be in on him.

It's good for Chicago.

[pipfan]

Caruso for the #16 is all I would do, from a Chi POV. Caruso would be LOVED in Philly and help them win games, and he's cheap (only for one more year).
This deal is too complicated

[youngcrev]

Caruso for the #16 is all I would do, from a Chi POV. Caruso would be LOVED in Philly and help them win games, and he's cheap (only for one more year).
This deal is too complicated

I absolutely think the Sixers would offer that if the Bulls actually put him on the market.