3 Way: ATL/MIN/SAS

Slim Charless · Post #1 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:54 pm

Spurs:
Trae Young
Clint Capela
They get a legit superstar to pair with Wemby and another big to back him up with some actual muscle. Still have a ton of picks and Trae/Wemby pairing could be the best in the league for years.

Wolves:
Jalen Johnson
#1 overall (Sarr??)
Move KAT to get a ton of money along with a future star in Johnson. The #1 pick can be used for whoever but Sarr can be the center of the future and can play next to Rudy in the now.

Hawks:
KAT
Devin Vassell
All of their picks back from SAS
Get a star in KAT, along with a guy in Vassell who should fit well next to DJM. This should allow them to win games now. Also get all of their future back so if they can not worry if they lose games and have to give away a good pick.

Should someone add on to the trade to make it even?

Colbinii · Post #2 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:06 pm

Minnesota just takes Trae Young.

How can Sarr play next to Rudy? Neither of them can shoot.

Threezus · Post #3 » by **Threezus** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:07 pm

You can remove Jalen Johnson from this trade he is not available other than that you can probably pick anyone else on the team and im not to against it.

Slim Charless · Post #4 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:13 pm

Colbinii wrote:Minnesota just takes Trae Young.

How can Sarr play next to Rudy? Neither of them can shoot.

Sarr is super young and at least puts them up. His % aren't terrible IMO for a 18 yr old big. I mean .387 is not the end of the world lol. He can improve on that easily too.

Colbinii · Post #5 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:19 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Colbinii wrote:Minnesota just takes Trae Young.

How can Sarr play next to Rudy? Neither of them can shoot.

Sarr is super young and at least puts them up. His % aren't terrible IMO for a 18 yr old big. I mean .387 is not the end of the world lol. He can improve on that easily too.

So Minnesota, a Top 5 team in the NBA and in their title window with their 7 best players all in or near their primes, decide to trade an All-Star for Jalen Johnson and the #1 pick?

I just don't see a team who is in win-now mode, came within a couple games of the NBA Finals on the back of a 22-year old, and decide to get meaningfully worse in the short term?

I bet the Suns would love for the team that bulldozed them to get worse. Maybe Denver, Dallas and OKC will also try to get worse next year as well.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #6 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:24 pm

Hawks getting hosed in here. There is no fixing this

Ball4life32 · Post #7 » by **Ball4life32** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:48 pm

Not even close for Atlanta.

Post #8 » by **nate33** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:17 pm

There's no way KAT on a $55M a year contract is worth anywhere near this much. I'm not convinced he will get back much more than cap relief.

NebWolvesFan · Post #9 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:19 pm

If Minnesota trades with ATL it's for Murray. I think TC likes him and the contract isn't crazy. Minnesota made a big push for him before being outbid by ATL.

KAT for Murray and pieces would be the deal if the two teams worked something out.

Post #10 » by **dms269** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:48 pm

The direction is very confusing. Atlanta makes a rebuilding move (trading Trae for Vassell plus their picks) only to turn around and make a win-now move. If Atlanta could get that value back for Trae, why not just keep Johnson and #1 and move Murray for rebuilding pieces?

Slim Charless · Post #11 » by **Slim Charless** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:48 pm

nate33 wrote:There's no way KAT on a $55M a year contract is worth anywhere near this much. I'm not convinced he will get back much more than cap relief.

It's a weak draft. You don't think KAT is worth that pick and am unknown, albeit talented Johnson? KAT has made the all star game numerous times and I think even an all pro. He's pretty much a guaranteed 22/10 with great range.....and you think he returns cap relief......

That seems.....off. To me, by alot.

Threezus · Post #12 » by **Threezus** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:05 pm

NebWolvesFan wrote:If Minnesota trades with ATL it's for Murray. I think TC likes him and the contract isn't crazy. Minnesota made a big push for him before being outbid by ATL.

KAT for Murray and pieces would be the deal if the two teams worked something out.

This is actually the way i would love to go depending what else those other pieces are. As long as it's not Trae, Jalen, or the #1 i don't see a issue with it.

You give me a 5 of

PG - Trae
SG -
SF - Jalen
PF - Sarr/KAT
C - KAT/Sarr

With onyeka or capela swapping in as the other big and we are working with something descent. Jalen and Kat provide more than enough shooting and rebounding to allow Sarr to blossom and become the best he can be and learn from them. Would need to try to get another defensive 2 way SG thats a bit bigger but i feel we can figure that out. Bufkin and Bogi aren't awful options though if we can't.

Colbinii · Post #13 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:06 pm

Threezus wrote:
NebWolvesFan wrote:If Minnesota trades with ATL it's for Murray. I think TC likes him and the contract isn't crazy. Minnesota made a big push for him before being outbid by ATL.

KAT for Murray and pieces would be the deal if the two teams worked something out.

This is actually the way i would love to go depending what else those other pieces are. As long as it's not Trae, Jalen, or the #1 i don't see a issue with it.

You give me a 5 of

PG - Trae
SG -
SF - Jalen
PF - Sarr/KAT
C - KAT/Sarr

With onyeka or capela swapping in as the other big and we are working with something descent. Jalen and Kat provide more than enough shooting and rebounding to allow Sarr to blossom and become the best he can be and learn from them. Would need to try to get another defensive 2 way SG thats a bit bigger but i feel we can figure that out. Bufkin and Bogi aren't awful options though if we can't.

This could work. Something like Bogdonovic + Murray to Minnesota? Hunter makes sense to keep around Trae/Towns.

Threezus · Post #14 » by **Threezus** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:06 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
nate33 wrote:There's no way KAT on a $55M a year contract is worth anywhere near this much. I'm not convinced he will get back much more than cap relief.

It's a weak draft. You don't think KAT is worth that pick and am unknown, albeit talented Johnson? KAT has made the all star game numerous times and I think even an all pro. He's pretty much a guaranteed 22/10 with great range.....and you think he returns cap relief......

That seems.....off. To me, by alot.

Im a big Kat fan but as a Hawk fan im sure as heck not giving up #1 and Johnson for KAT. I would much more easily give up Murray + for Kat than those 2 pieces.

Threezus · Post #15 » by **Threezus** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:07 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Threezus wrote:
NebWolvesFan wrote:If Minnesota trades with ATL it's for Murray. I think TC likes him and the contract isn't crazy. Minnesota made a big push for him before being outbid by ATL.

KAT for Murray and pieces would be the deal if the two teams worked something out.

This is actually the way i would love to go depending what else those other pieces are. As long as it's not Trae, Jalen, or the #1 i don't see a issue with it.

You give me a 5 of

PG - Trae
SG -
SF - Jalen
PF - Sarr/KAT
C - KAT/Sarr

With onyeka or capela swapping in as the other big and we are working with something descent. Jalen and Kat provide more than enough shooting and rebounding to allow Sarr to blossom and become the best he can be and learn from them. Would need to try to get another defensive 2 way SG thats a bit bigger but i feel we can figure that out. Bufkin and Bogi aren't awful options though if we can't.

This could work. Something like Hunter to a 3rd team and a lesser player + pick to Minnesota.

We have sac's 1st as well to play around with next year if need be somewhere to go grab a SG like Caruso maybe?

wemby · Post #16 » by **wemby** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:54 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Spurs:
Trae Young
Clint Capela
They get a legit superstar to pair with Wemby and another big to back him up with some actual muscle. Still have a ton of picks and Trae/Wemby pairing could be the best in the league for years.

Hawks:
KAT
Devin Vassell
All of their picks back from SAS
Get a star in KAT, along with a guy in Vassell who should fit well next to DJM. This should allow them to win games now. Also get all of their future back so if they can not worry if they lose games and have to give away a good pick.

Yet another awful proposal for the Spurs that thinks they're a charity meant to help Hawks & TWolves solve their problems. Newsflash: they'd be much better off by just keeping Vassell and the picks, and use 4 / 8 on who you think is the best guard prospect available (Castle, Dillingham, Sheppard). Next year they'll be a big time player in free agency and would still have a lot of picks in a much deeper draft either to acquire talent or get much bigger fish than Trae Young.

Post #17 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:03 pm

Everytime a Minnesota fan suggests trading Karl-Anthony Towns for Dejounte Murray, I experience stroke-like symptoms. Atlanta would have to add a solid amount, from my perspective.

That aside, there is absolutely no way that Atlanta does this trade. I would absolutely take a gamble on this trade (despite Towns being criminally underrated), but I don't see Karl-Anthony Towns netting #1 and Jalen Johnson. My expectation is that Atlanta is trying to soft reload a rebuild.

CP War Hawks · Post #18 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:17 am

nate33 wrote:There's no way KAT on a $55M a year contract is worth anywhere near this much. I'm not convinced he will get back much more than cap relief.

I agree to an extent, he's much closer to relief than actual on court value. Likely more towards a couple of 1st rounders.

People putting all star value for him are not realizing his market.

shrink · Post #19 » by **shrink** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:36 am

Domejandro wrote:Everytime a Minnesota fan suggests trading Karl-Anthony Towns for Dejounte Murray, I experience stroke-like symptoms. Atlanta would have to add a solid amount, from my perspective.

I get also get this reaction from Trae Young to MIN posts.

This Wolves’ success comes from its defensive identity, where every player works hard to help their brother. Gobert’s interest in coming to MIN may have been to change the narrative, by being on a team with perimeter and point of attack defenders. On top of this, the Wolves shouldn’t be looking to add a player that takes the ball out of Ant’s hands, and uses up his shot attempts.

shrink · Post #20 » by **shrink** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:36 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
nate33 wrote:There's no way KAT on a $55M a year contract is worth anywhere near this much. I'm not convinced he will get back much more than cap relief.

I agree to an extent, he's much closer to relief than actual on court value. Likely more towards a couple of 1st rounders.

People putting all star value for him are not realizing his market.

You mean, the guy that literally was an All Star?

Who needs to add value?