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jbk1234 wrote:I just don't think that Altman is going to trade Garland this summer.
GQ Hot Dog wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I just don't think that Altman is going to trade Garland this summer.
If DoMitch gets extended, will Garland be able to return to 2021-22 and 2022-23 form playing next to him? If not, why keep him when he can't showcase his full potential and isn't happy next to DoMitch?
This is the best time to trade him because many teams have need of a talented lead guard entering his prime. Let a bidding war start and get the best return possible for a guy that has perennial All-Star potential. After playing another year with Cleveland, he might not be viewed that way so much.
jbk1234 wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I just don't think that Altman is going to trade Garland this summer.
If DoMitch gets extended, will Garland be able to return to 2021-22 and 2022-23 form playing next to him? If not, why keep him when he can't showcase his full potential and isn't happy next to DoMitch?
This is the best time to trade him because many teams have need of a talented lead guard entering his prime. Let a bidding war start and get the best return possible for a guy that has perennial All-Star potential. After playing another year with Cleveland, he might not be viewed that way so much.
Garland played next to Mitchell in 2022-23, and that should be the floor, not the roof under a new coach. That's what most people aren't getting
Detroit should see it that way. By this point, it's apparent that Cade will not be a superstar. The hope is he will become as good as Garland.HornetJail wrote:I would personally happily take Garland over Cade but Detroit's definitely not going to see it that way.
GQ Hot Dog wrote:jbk1234 wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:If DoMitch gets extended, will Garland be able to return to 2021-22 and 2022-23 form playing next to him? If not, why keep him when he can't showcase his full potential and isn't happy next to DoMitch?
This is the best time to trade him because many teams have need of a talented lead guard entering his prime. Let a bidding war start and get the best return possible for a guy that has perennial All-Star potential. After playing another year with Cleveland, he might not be viewed that way so much.
Garland played next to Mitchell in 2022-23, and that should be the floor, not the roof under a new coach. That's what most people aren't getting
We(I) know what Garland is capable of. If you trade him now, I think you can get a return that makes the team better next year than keeping Garland would. And I'm not talking about Miles Bridges.
If Garland wants to leave, let him and his agent go drum up interest, then create a bidding war and if it doesn't yield a return that moves the Cavs forward right away, don't trade him. Garland has no real leverage here so let a team get desperate and blow the Cavs FO away with a godfather offer.
If a Gobert to the TWolves level offer was made, should Altman turn it down?
jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think the value difference between Cade and Garland is really that big. Cade going to get paid next year based off of potential, at least Garland’s floor impacts games.
Whether Detroit wants a high lottery pick and some other value (involving Houston/Charlotte) or whether they want a volume pick package (involving NOP) or if they want to keep Garland, tank anyways next year and picture Duren/Thompson/Bailey/Garland with either Matas or Holland in 2025?
Cleveland could add some minor value if needed, but I actually like the idea for them. Take the risk
Laimbeer wrote:Detroit should see it that way. By this point, it's apparent that Cade will not be a superstar. The hope is he will become as good as Garland.HornetJail wrote:I would personally happily take Garland over Cade but Detroit's definitely not going to see it that way.
Kalamazoo317 wrote:jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think the value difference between Cade and Garland is really that big. Cade going to get paid next year based off of potential, at least Garland’s floor impacts games.
Whether Detroit wants a high lottery pick and some other value (involving Houston/Charlotte) or whether they want a volume pick package (involving NOP) or if they want to keep Garland, tank anyways next year and picture Duren/Thompson/Bailey/Garland with either Matas or Holland in 2025?
Cleveland could add some minor value if needed, but I actually like the idea for them. Take the risk
I agree that Cade/Garland is fairly even value. Just doesn’t make any sense for the Pistons to move Cade for even value. What’s the point for us?
Whole Truth wrote:GQ Hot Dog wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
Garland played next to Mitchell in 2022-23, and that should be the floor, not the roof under a new coach. That's what most people aren't getting
We(I) know what Garland is capable of. If you trade him now, I think you can get a return that makes the team better next year than keeping Garland would. And I'm not talking about Miles Bridges.
If Garland wants to leave, let him and his agent go drum up interest, then create a bidding war and if it doesn't yield a return that moves the Cavs forward right away, don't trade him. Garland has no real leverage here so let a team get desperate and blow the Cavs FO away with a godfather offer.
If a Gobert to the TWolves level offer was made, should Altman turn it down?
I don't believe in lopsided trades. A trade where both parties get what they want make for great trade partners based in trust.
Fleece teams enough, you will get a reputation not to be dealt with.
guldakot wrote:Kalamazoo317 wrote:jayjaysee wrote:I don’t think the value difference between Cade and Garland is really that big. Cade going to get paid next year based off of potential, at least Garland’s floor impacts games.
Whether Detroit wants a high lottery pick and some other value (involving Houston/Charlotte) or whether they want a volume pick package (involving NOP) or if they want to keep Garland, tank anyways next year and picture Duren/Thompson/Bailey/Garland with either Matas or Holland in 2025?
Cleveland could add some minor value if needed, but I actually like the idea for them. Take the risk
I agree that Cade/Garland is fairly even value. Just doesn’t make any sense for the Pistons to move Cade for even value. What’s the point for us?
Its not even value imo, Cunningham is a dime a dozen player, there is someone of his caliber in almost every draft. There's a reason why he has been mentioned in trades for the last 2 years. Good scorer, decent playmaker, bad D, bad shooting efficiency. Cunningham is nice but he's a tier2/3 player imo.
Garland still has a much higher possible ceiling, trading him now especially for a player like Cunningham would be just plain stupid.
zeebneeb wrote::lol:
If Trajon is successful, and puts real NBA players around Cade this year, this is just one of many threads people will look back on and laugh.
This isn't even in the same universe of value needed for Cade.