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Hawks/Quinn appear to have interest in Clingan, a more ready prospect. They have a need to appease Young's desire to compete & are potentially exploring trades downs for added value.

Nets have a desirable asset that's getting older & close to expiring. More of an elite role player than #1. However the team with the best offer owns their draft for the next few years & trading out of Bridges means, Houston who own their draft rights are offering a rebuilding package, which ultimately benefits their future owned picks.

Houston want a win now player & are all in on Bridges but how do they convince Nets that giving up their best player is not counter productive to the value of the future owned picks ?

NO's, IMO need a soft reset to find a better fit for Zion, raise the ceiling & get better cost control to move away from the luxury tax.

Houston trade - (#3, Green, Whitmore, Adams, FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges, DFS) for (BI, Green, #21, NO/Lakers 25)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Adams, DFS, #3, Houston FRP)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's Lakers 25) for (Capela, Whitmore, #1)

Some other team can overpay for Bridges.

That ship has sailed for Houston.

Bridges is not worth anything near that much.
Take Houston out.

Kiss of Death wrote:Bridges is not worth anything near that much.
Take Houston out.

What do you think Bridges is worth to Houston.

Nets are sucking a whoooole lot of value in this deal.

Rockets are not interested in Bridges at this price.

To me this is wayyy to good for the Nets. Bridges, to me, isn't that much more valuable than Ingram. I think both guys are worth one very high pick and a good young prospect (e.g. Whitmore) or one more lottery pick, protected for the top-7 or so.

Wether or not it makes sense for the Rockets to trade for either Ingram or Bridges is another story and debatable.

Whole Truth wrote:

Kiss of Death wrote:Bridges is not worth anything near that much.
Take Houston out.

What do you think Bridges is worth to Houston.

Bridges would be a 2 year rental for Houston, so not very much.

They will have to pay the young guys about the same time as his contract ends. Bridges will be pushing 30. The Core 6 will still be under 25.

He does not raise their ceiling enough for the next two years to warrant giving up anything of real value for him.

Mikal fits with what HOU likes - but, they are overloaded with young guys needing those minutes.

pg - Vleet - (good, but probably not retained after next year since HOU will have cap space).
pg of future - Amen? Guy is uber skilled at everything but shooting.
sg - Jalen Green - Is he real? Can he replicate March or even improve? Make or break year.
sg 2/sf 2 - Whitmore - Needs minutes. Great scorer who cannot pass to save his life.
sf - Brooks - His intensity is key for this team. Do not see him leaving.
f - Tari Eason - Team defense dropped by a large amount when he got hurt. Would start for a lot of teams. What can he do this year?
pf - Jabari - 3&D. Can take over sometimes. Want to see what he is able to do if totally healthy.
c - Sengun - Has improved each year - both stats and physically. Might not dominate but is better than most centers in the league.
expiring or team option backups - Adams, Landale, Tate, JeffGreen.
Plus, #3.

Mikal is the type of player they like - so, #3 and BKN pick back is reasonable. But, probably just not willing to give up the young guys unless it is a real star (any of Amen/Jalen/Eason/Jabari/Whitmore could explode). I think to talk about those guys, needs to be Trae Young or Mitchell.

Kiss of Death wrote:

Whole Truth wrote:

Kiss of Death wrote:Bridges is not worth anything near that much.
Take Houston out.

What do you think Bridges is worth to Houston.

Bridges would be a 2 year rental for Houston, so not very much.

They will have to pay the young guys about the same time as his contract ends. Bridges will be pushing 30. The Core 6 still be under 25.

He does not raise their ceiling enough for the next two years to warrant giving up anything of real value for him.

I looked up some links to gauge what was rumored.
At the deadline Green & 2 FRP's
Offseason #3

What do you think of -

(#3, Whitmore, Adams)

Adams was in the deal to match salary

Whole Truth wrote:

Kiss of Death wrote:

Whole Truth wrote:
What do you think Bridges is worth to Houston.

Bridges would be a 2 year rental for Houston, so not very much.

They will have to pay the young guys about the same time as his contract ends. Bridges will be pushing 30. The Core 6 still be under 25.

He does not raise their ceiling enough for the next two years to warrant giving up anything of real value for him.

I looked up some links to gauge what was rumored.
At the deadline Green & 2 FRP's
Offseason #3

What do you think of -

(#3, Whitmore, Adams)

Adams was in the deal to match salary

That’s still too much for Bridges. Whitmore has a much higher ceiling.

Rockets offered expiring contracts (Oladipo, Landale) and some of the Nets picks back.
Brooklyn wanted Green and all of their picks back for Bridges.
Houston wanted the Suns unprotected picks.
The Rockets do not value Bridges anywhere near where Brooklyn does.

Is this Jalen Green or Jeff Green?

Even with Jeff it feels a bit strong. I could see #3 + a 1st + Salary filler (Adams + Jeff Green)

Mikal is nice but is he a top 50 nba player? Borderline? I see his role on a title team as a worse/taller Jrue Holiday. A really good player, but probably your 3rd-4th best player any given night.

LightTheBeam wrote:Is this Jalen Green or Jeff Green?

Even with Jeff it feels a bit strong. I could see #3 + a 1st + Salary filler (Adams + Jeff Green)

Mikal is nice but is he a top 50 nba player? Borderline? I see his role on a title team as a worse/taller Jrue Holiday. A really good player, but probably your 3rd-4th best player any given night.

I can make that work.

I'd remove the FRP & add value from NO's for Whitmore's inclusion. I was looking for him to cheaply backup Murphy with BI gone.

Whole Truth wrote:

LightTheBeam wrote:Is this Jalen Green or Jeff Green?

Even with Jeff it feels a bit strong. I could see #3 + a 1st + Salary filler (Adams + Jeff Green)

Mikal is nice but is he a top 50 nba player? Borderline? I see his role on a title team as a worse/taller Jrue Holiday. A really good player, but probably your 3rd-4th best player any given night.

I can make that work.

I'd remove the FRP & add value from NO's for Whitmore's inclusion. I was looking for him to cheaply backup Murphy with BI gone.

I'm a big Whitmore fan, so I have him worth much more than just a random future 1st. But I'm not a Houston fan so

Houston trade - (#3, Adams, FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Adams, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Adams, FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Adams, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Adams is expected to be a rotation player. Swap it for Tate + Landale for salary purposes.

And what is the Houston FRP? What year, what protections?

LarsV8 wrote:

Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Adams, FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Adams, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Adams is expected to be a rotation player. Swap it for Tate + Landale for salary purposes.

And what is the Houston FRP? What year, what protections?

However you want to fill the trade salary.

As for the FRP, It would be better for Houston fans to say, instead of me guessing. I was thinking Nets would want their draft rights back as the deadline trade suggested.

Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Tate, Landale, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Is there a scenario where NO's can send Houston value to include Whitmore ?

Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Tate, Landale, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Hawks for sure pass on this one i would be pretty livid with a return like that for us. The original one you posted at the top i would atleast think about but this one is a easy no. Their is absolutely nothing i would take in that trade worth anything much. The NO/Lakers 25 pick will be 16 or later for both. I wouldn't give Capela for Tate and Landale. We already had Landale and let him leave for cash considerations lol.

To me Capela > Tate + Jock in value and #1 for 3 + a late 1st next year isn't worth it we can do better than that for the #1 pick.

Threezus wrote:

Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)

Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, #21, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)

Hawks trade - (Capela, #1) for (Tate, Landale, #3 Clingan, NO's/Lakers 25)

NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Capela, #1)

Hawks for sure pass on this one i would be pretty livid with a return like that for us. The original one you posted at the top i would atleast think about but this one is a easy no. Their is absolutely nothing i would take in that trade worth anything much. The NO/Lakers 25 pick will be 16 or later for both. I wouldn't give Capela for Tate and Landale. We already had Landale and let him leave for cash considerations lol.

To me Capela > Tate + Jock in value and #1 for 3 + a late 1st next year isn't worth it we can do better than that for the #1 pick.

I thought Adams would compliment OO better but Houston says no. I can take Capela out of the deal, he's not a necessary add. I just thought OO is ready to start & Hawks really wouldn't want Capela to come off the bench but I neglected the thought of a separate trade because I have blinders on lol.

I have the Lakers pick with some decent lotto projection. There's a lot of young teams on the rise in the west. Houston will improve, especially if they land Bridges & I expect Memphis to bounce back from Ja's injury. I wouldn't count Wemby out if Spurs make some upgrades. Factor Lakers have been in the play in the last 2yrs with relative health. They have limited resources to improve, they have a new coach implementing a new system which has an adjustment period. Davis has been playing through injuries he normally sits with & is due. Lebron has been defying age but is still a year older & father time is undefeated. The one thing I can't account for is the whistle they get.

I have the Lakers pick projected 8-14.