Kings/Clippers

[Jkam31]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276177/Paul-George-Likely-To-Opt-In-And-Request-Trade-If-Changing-Teams

Sacramento: Paul George
Clippers: Barnes, Heurter, Mitchell, Sasha, and 13th pick

Why for Sacramento: kings become a legit title contender with a big three of fox, PG, and Sabonis with hood players in Keegan, Ellis and monk. PG also gets to stay in California where I think he wants to be and I doubt he gets traded to the lakers

Why for Clippers: clippers get a lottery pick while getting good veteran depth players and a young player in Mitchell

[ejftw]

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

[Colbinii]

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter? Did we all just forget how good he was from 2021-2023?

[Jkam31]

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter is an elite shooter who has been starting for 3+ years, clippers don’t have a backup pg Mitchell can be that for them and he’s better than westbrick. They can also flip the 13th pick and Huerter has value to be flipped but clippers could use him

[ejftw]

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter is an elite shooter who has been starting for 3+ years, clippers don’t have a backup pg Mitchell can be that for them and he’s better than westbrick. They can also flip the 13th pick and Huerter has value to be flipped but clippers could use him

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter? Did we all just forget how good he was from 2021-2023?

Clippers already have a better microwave option coming off the bench at the guard spots, and that isn't a combination I want to necessarily platoon. Namely when T is gonna be the expected starter in this scenario with Barnes slotting in at the four.

_avion isn't really someone I'd take over Russ either, plus, I'd rather give those minutes to Bones.

[Colbinii]

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter is an elite shooter who has been starting for 3+ years, clippers don’t have a backup pg Mitchell can be that for them and he’s better than westbrick. They can also flip the 13th pick and Huerter has value to be flipped but clippers could use him

I mean, if the alternative is losing Paul for nothing, might as well, but I'm wondering where this good depth is. Barnes is the only one that would get consistent burn and possibly Sasha, unless other moves come to fruition.

Huerter? Did we all just forget how good he was from 2021-2023?

Clippers already have a better microwave option coming off the bench at the guard spots, and that isn't a combination I want to necessarily platoon. Namely when T is gonna be the expected starter in this scenario with Barnes slotting in at the four.

_avion isn't really someone I'd take over Russ either, plus, I'd rather give those minutes to Bones.

Mitchell is a much better player than Bones who...defends. Bones is unplayable in any high-intensity or high-level game.

[ejftw]

Huerter is an elite shooter who has been starting for 3+ years, clippers don’t have a backup pg Mitchell can be that for them and he’s better than westbrick. They can also flip the 13th pick and Huerter has value to be flipped but clippers could use him

Huerter? Did we all just forget how good he was from 2021-2023?

Clippers already have a better microwave option coming off the bench at the guard spots, and that isn't a combination I want to necessarily platoon. Namely when T is gonna be the expected starter in this scenario with Barnes slotting in at the four.

_avion isn't really someone I'd take over Russ either, plus, I'd rather give those minutes to Bones.

Mitchell is a much better player than Bones who...defends. Bones is unplayable in any high-intensity or high-level game.

So he's better than the third string option as Harden/Russ would be Starter/Second after this move, unless your expecting James to leave, then, it really doesn't matter as the team would win 30 games.

[Colbinii]

Clippers already have a better microwave option coming off the bench at the guard spots, and that isn't a combination I want to necessarily platoon. Namely when T is gonna be the expected starter in this scenario with Barnes slotting in at the four.

_avion isn't really someone I'd take over Russ either, plus, I'd rather give those minutes to Bones.

Mitchell is a much better player than Bones who...defends. Bones is unplayable in any high-intensity or high-level game.

So he's better than the third string option as Harden/Russ would be Starter/Second after this move, unless your expecting James to leave, then, it really doesn't matter as the team would win 30 games.

I think Mitchell is better than Bones. Harden and Westbrook aren't ironmen [Westbrook sort of is] so having a competent 3rd PG on the roster is big for LAC. Mitchell also can see play in certain playoff series/matchups.

[Texas Chuck]

Forgetting who thinks who would or would not play--arguments that can never be won. This is a case where George has told them I'm leaving either way. Do I think a team willing to spend big money and with lots of pick debts would prefer these players and a lotto pick to just letting him go?

Yeah I do. This isn't locked up PG you are trading. This is free agent PG agreeing to opt in to get to the Kings which happens to also help the Clippers.

Now they could let PG and Harden go and have $35M or so in space and try and go that route, but I fail to see how that fields a better team. I'd think if they aren't going to pay him a deal like this is pretty solid.

[Jkam31]

Forgetting who thinks who would or would not play--arguments that can never be won. This is a case where George has told them I'm leaving either way. Do I think a team willing to spend big money and with lots of pick debts would prefer these players and a lotto pick to just letting him go?

Yeah I do. This isn't locked up PG you are trading. This is free agent PG agreeing to opt in to get to the Kings which happens to also help the Clippers.

Now they could let PG and Harden go and have $35M or so in space and try and go that route, but I fail to see how that fields a better team. I'd think if they aren't going to pay him a deal like this is pretty solid.

Exactly it’ll come down to the teams he lists and what they can offer doubt he wants to go east as his family is in LA and he’s from here. Sacramento lets him stay relatively close to LA while Sacramento gives the players that actually are valuable unlike Bones or Westbrook. Can see him wanting GSW/Dallas as well but LA trading him to GSW wouldn’t look good

[Sactowndog]

Huerter is an elite shooter who has been starting for 3+ years, clippers don’t have a backup pg Mitchell can be that for them and he’s better than westbrick. They can also flip the 13th pick and Huerter has value to be flipped but clippers could use him

Huerter? Did we all just forget how good he was from 2021-2023?

Clippers already have a better microwave option coming off the bench at the guard spots, and that isn't a combination I want to necessarily platoon. Namely when T is gonna be the expected starter in this scenario with Barnes slotting in at the four.

_avion isn't really someone I'd take over Russ either, plus, I'd rather give those minutes to Bones.

Mitchell is a much better player than Bones who...defends. Bones is unplayable in any high-intensity or high-level game.

I think Mitchell is way underrated because he was stuck behind Fox/ Haliburton and then Fox/Monk. Given his size he can’t really slide over and has to defend point of attack but does that very well.

I hope we do trade him so he gets a chance to prove himself. I think he is exhibit A of why you don’t draft “Best Player Available” regardless of circumstances.

[Sactowndog]

Forgetting who thinks who would or would not play--arguments that can never be won. This is a case where George has told them I'm leaving either way. Do I think a team willing to spend big money and with lots of pick debts would prefer these players and a lotto pick to just letting him go?

Yeah I do. This isn't locked up PG you are trading. This is free agent PG agreeing to opt in to get to the Kings which happens to also help the Clippers.

Now they could let PG and Harden go and have $35M or so in space and try and go that route, but I fail to see how that fields a better team. I'd think if they aren't going to pay him a deal like this is pretty solid.

Yeah if anything given he only would have a year it’s an over pay.

[OxAndFox]

I have wanted PG13 for a while and the news that he might opt in to ask for a trade is right up this alley. I say yes to this, the PF position be damned.

[Jkam31]

I have wanted PG13 for a while and the news that he might opt in to ask for a trade is right up this alley. I say yes to this, the PF position be damned.

Keegan can get play PF without a problem outside of 2-3 guys

[OxAndFox]

I have wanted PG13 for a while and the news that he might opt in to ask for a trade is right up this alley. I say yes to this, the PF position be damned.

Keegan can get play PF without a problem outside of 2-3 guys

Still think he is 2 seasons away from it full time, but yeah you're right.

[Jkam31]

I have wanted PG13 for a while and the news that he might opt in to ask for a trade is right up this alley. I say yes to this, the PF position be damned.

Keegan can get play PF without a problem outside of 2-3 guys

Still think he is 2 seasons away from it full time, but yeah you're right.

Playoff wise the only PF that would hurt us would be Zion, lebron and KAT and KAT is KAT

[ejftw]

Exactly it’ll come down to the teams he lists and what they can offer doubt he wants to go east as his family is in LA and he’s from here. Sacramento lets him stay relatively close to LA while Sacramento gives the players that actually are valuable unlike Bones or Westbrook. Can see him wanting GSW/Dallas as well but LA trading him to GSW wouldn’t look good

Sure, Barnes and Huerter are more valuable, but that's about it. I'm not sure Mitchell nor Vezenkov would return an expiring JAG in return, which questions the amount of value they hold.

Frank also shouldn't care about "looking good," and avoiding dealing with any team if it helps the Clips, who are in between a rock and a hard place. I mean, say GSW offers Paul/Moody/Looney/Payton/SRPs, and it's that versus letting George walk, have to take it. Hell, if the Lakers offered Vincent, D'Lo/Rui, Vanderbilt, Fino, #17, Frank would have to take it as well, even if it doesn't look good.

[Jkam31]

Exactly it’ll come down to the teams he lists and what they can offer doubt he wants to go east as his family is in LA and he’s from here. Sacramento lets him stay relatively close to LA while Sacramento gives the players that actually are valuable unlike Bones or Westbrook. Can see him wanting GSW/Dallas as well but LA trading him to GSW wouldn’t look good

Sure, Barnes and Huerter are more valuable, but that's about it. I'm not sure Mitchell nor Vezenkov would return an expiring JAG in return, which questions the amount of value they hold.

Frank also shouldn't care about "looking good," and avoiding dealing with any team if it helps the Clips, who are in between a rock and a hard place. I mean, say GSW offers Paul/Moody/Looney/Payton/SRPs, and it's that versus letting George walk, have to take it. Hell, if the Lakers offered Vincent, D'Lo/Rui, Vanderbilt, Fino, #17, Frank would have to take it as well, even if it doesn't look good.

LA can’t offer D’Lo I believe no way there offer beats Sacramento without him. There’s less than zero chance any LA team trades a star to another LA team barring a kings ransom. That GSW offer isn’t as strong either unless Wiggins is added Huarter and barnes have more value than CP/Payton

[SNPA]

I have wanted PG13 for a while and the news that he might opt in to ask for a trade is right up this alley. I say yes to this, the PF position be damned.

Keegan can get play PF without a problem outside of 2-3 guys

Still think he is 2 seasons away from it full time, but yeah you're right.

He doesn’t rebound well enough yet. He is a three currently…agreed, he is several years away. If ever.

[Sactowndog]

Exactly it’ll come down to the teams he lists and what they can offer doubt he wants to go east as his family is in LA and he’s from here. Sacramento lets him stay relatively close to LA while Sacramento gives the players that actually are valuable unlike Bones or Westbrook. Can see him wanting GSW/Dallas as well but LA trading him to GSW wouldn’t look good

Sure, Barnes and Huerter are more valuable, but that's about it. I'm not sure Mitchell nor Vezenkov would return an expiring JAG in return, which questions the amount of value they hold.

Frank also shouldn't care about "looking good," and avoiding dealing with any team if it helps the Clips, who are in between a rock and a hard place. I mean, say GSW offers Paul/Moody/Looney/Payton/SRPs, and it's that versus letting George walk, have to take it. Hell, if the Lakers offered Vincent, D'Lo/Rui, Vanderbilt, Fino, #17, Frank would have to take it as well, even if it doesn't look good.

LA can’t offer D’Lo I believe no way there offer beats Sacramento without him. There’s less than zero chance any LA team trades a star to another LA team barring a kings ransom. That GSW offer isn’t as strong either unless Wiggins is added Huarter and barnes have more value than CP/Payton

I say this as a former Clipper season ticket holder who was a Clipper fan when Manning and Charles Smith were drafted. I used to go to Loyola Marymount and watch them play summer league when you could walk out of the stands and chat with Pop and Alvin Gentry.

If I’m the Clippers, sitting in the Western Conference, I want Davion Mitchell first. He can slow down the penetration of players like Fox and Morant which the Clippers can’t stop today. He shot the ball better last year. If he wasn’t blocked by Fox he would be NBA starter material.

I would put Huerter/Mitchell as 1A and 1B followed by 13 then Barnes if I were the Clippers.