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Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:51 pm
by shagadelic45
PHX TRADES: Durant, Little
CLE TRADES: Garland, Mobley
Cavs go with Mitchell long-term and get a superstar to pair with him
Suns break up their big 3 to get younger and deeper
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:55 pm
by jbk1234
Nope. Durant doesn't have this type of trade value anymore and the Suns can't aggregate salaries. I'd add Wade to Garland and if that's not enough, so be it.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:10 pm
by Godaddycurse
should be booker, not durant
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:14 pm
by Crives
2nd apron going to kill this board lol
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:38 pm
by DowJones
Really bad for Cleveland. I would consider Mobley and filler for Durant and that’s it.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:49 pm
by Fo-Real
The only two owners who are mortal enemies and you make up a trade between them!!!
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:39 pm
by bgrep14
No chance the Cavs trade Mobley. I’d Give Garland and Lavert for Booker or Durant.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:57 pm
by axeman23
This is not particularly close from Cavs end. IF i was going to trade for Durant, it would be Garland and fillers to try the "tri-towers" experiment again which i was enjoying personally. But i'm still more interested in seeing what offers we might get for DM. And I'm not sure current KD is the winning bid/best value move to make in that case anyway.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:20 am
by hugepatsfan
CLE gives: Garland and Allen for Durant and something from third team
Phoenix gives: Durant and Nurkic (and draft assets) for Garland and Allen
3rd team gets assets and takes on Nurkic for the player they give CLE
Framework of a deal I could see being interesting.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:22 am
by jredsaz
bgrep14 wrote:No chance the Cavs trade Mobley. I’d Give Garland and Lavert for Booker or Durant.
I mean, I’m one of the biggest proponents of Garland on the board and that’s just terrible value for Durant much less Booker.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:24 am
by jredsaz
jbk1234 wrote:Nope. Durant doesn't have this type of trade value anymore and the Suns can't aggregate salaries. I'd add Wade to Garland and if that's not enough, so be it.
I mean that’s fair as it’s you opinion but you know that’s just bad value for Durant. And I’m a huge Garland fan.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:27 am
by jredsaz
Fo-Real wrote:The only two owners who are mortal enemies and you make up a trade between them!!!
Ishbia and Gilbert are never making a trade. At least not one of this magnitude or anything close to it.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:49 am
by Mr Puddles
Durant was all NBA second team last year, whereas Garland is probably a negative contract and Phoenix would be cluttered at the guard position.
Evan Mobley hasn't developed as much as you'd since entering the league. The Suns would probably have to pay a lot of money to retain him in the hope that he lives up to his promise on a new team.
Trade help balance the Cavs roster, but doesn't help the Suns at all unless they can flip Beal and Nurkic in seperate deals.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:00 am
by jbk1234
Mr Puddles wrote:Durant was all NBA second team last year, whereas Garland is probably a negative contract and Phoenix would be cluttered at the guard position.
Evan Mobley hasn't developed as much as you'd since entering the league. The Suns would probably have to pay a lot of money to retain him in the hope that he lives up to his promise on a new team.
Trade help balance the Cavs roster, but doesn't help the Suns at all unless they can flip Beal and Nurkic in seperate deals.
Neither team is going to do this deal, but the idea that Garland is viewed as a negative contract is belied by a lot of national reporting, and if the Cavs would make Mobley available (they won't), teams would line up to pay him.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:11 am
by JustBuzzin
Um what is PHX going to do with Garland/Beal/Booker?
That's arguably a worst fit than their current roster.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:04 am
by JJ_PR
Horrific for Cleveland. I'd consider this if it was 2017.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:25 am
by jredsaz
Mr Puddles wrote:Durant was all NBA second team last year, whereas Garland is probably a negative contract and Phoenix would be cluttered at the guard position.
Evan Mobley hasn't developed as much as you'd since entering the league. The Suns would probably have to pay a lot of money to retain him in the hope that he lives up to his promise on a new team.
Trade help balance the Cavs roster, but doesn't help the Suns at all unless they can flip Beal and Nurkic in seperate deals.
I like Garland a lot. Mobley isn’t some burgeoning star but he is good. The two of them together is a totally compelling offer if the Suns were looking to change things up. But the suns aren’t and one or the other of Garland/Mobley dont have the value to give up Durant right now.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:27 am
by jredsaz
JJ_PR wrote:Horrific for Cleveland. I'd consider this if it was 2017.
Cavs probably have the second best odds to win the East next year after this trade.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:19 pm
by jbk1234
jredsaz wrote:JJ_PR wrote:Horrific for Cleveland. I'd consider this if it was 2017.
Cavs probably have the second best odds to win the East next year after this trade.
Would've like to play that last Celtics series with a healthy Allen and Mitchell. As it was, we were as competitive as ony of their opponents without them.
Re: Suns and Cavs
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:14 pm
by Scoot McGroot
Mr Puddles wrote:Durant was all NBA second team last year, whereas Garland is probably a negative contract and Phoenix would be cluttered at the guard position.
Garland absolutely is not a negative contract. Nope.
Sure, this would “clutter” the guard spots for Phoenix. And with their likely inability to move Beal, this would be a problem. That’s absolutely fair to say.
Evan Mobley hasn't developed as much as you'd since entering the league. The Suns would probably have to pay a lot of money to retain him in the hope that he lives up to his promise on a new team.
Wow. Wildly disagree. Mobley has been an absolute defensive presence in his time in the league. And with Garland and Mitchell, he’s never even gotten 21% usage. There’s absolute potential on offense for him, and signs he could continue to add a long range shot to his game. He’s insanely valuable on the open market. Maybe more so than Durant, at this time?
Trade help balance the Cavs roster, but doesn't help the Suns at all unless they can flip Beal and Nurkic in seperate deals.
I think if Phoenix could add Evan Mobley to pair long term with Booker, they absolutely would and wouldn’t worry about Beal’s or Nurkic’s. And to get Garland, too? That’s amazing value, and a pretty solid overpay for Durant, at this time.