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[Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:54 pm
by bondom34
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Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:55 pm
by gswhoops
Inevitable but good for him nonetheless.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:56 pm
by MotownMadness
Rookie max is crazy expensive

He deserves it but man. Cade is gonna get one of these causing all kinds of debates.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:57 pm
by JRoy
Great for him and TOR.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:57 pm
by Texas Chuck
Inevitable indeed. Good on him. Raps fans will be happy its done quickly and painlessly I'd imagine. Now the real work can begin.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:59 pm
by Colbinii
I suppose their was no way he would take what Desmond Bane did

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:59 pm
by Duffman100
20, 8 and 6 with nearly 3 stocks a game at the age of 22. Yeah, makes sense for a max extension

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:00 pm
by jayjaysee
Good for him, and good for Toronto with the fifth year.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:01 pm
by Godaddycurse
Colbinii wrote:I suppose their was no way he would take what Desmond Bane did


didnt bane sign for 25% max extension at the time too?

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:01 pm
by zimpy27
It's a lot but who else would Raptors give this money to. Better off just betting on the young man to keep rising.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:04 pm
by gswhoops
Duffman100 wrote:20, 8 and 6 with nearly 3 stocks a game at the age of 22. Yeah, makes sense for a max extension

Oh yeah to be clear I didn't expect the Raps would do any differently, nor should they have. He's your franchise guy, lock him up early and keep him happy instead of playing games when this was the inevitable outcome.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:12 pm
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I suppose their was no way he would take what Desmond Bane did


didnt bane sign for 25% max extension at the time too?


I thought Bane's was slightly less.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:13 pm
by JMAC3
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I suppose their was no way he would take what Desmond Bane did


didnt bane sign for 25% max extension at the time too?


I thought Bane's was slightly less.


It is the same deal, just without the All-NBA kicker. Which makes sense because far more likely Barnes makes All-NBA then Bane.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:16 pm
by tcheco
Worth it, don't think he will ever be a take games over by himself type of player but do everything well type of player, perfect low maintenance star player. If Raptors can keep IQ for "cheap" they can start imagining a decent future. That being said, Poetl trade was an all time bad move

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:18 pm
by Colbinii
tcheco wrote:Worth it, don't think he will ever be a take games over by himself type of player but do everything well type of player, perfect low maintenance star player. If Raptors can keep IQ for "cheap" they can start imagining a decent future. That being said, Poetl trade was an all time bad move


Yeah the Poetl trade was definitely one of those "You still value centers like the Bulls did in 2021 and didn't learn from that?"

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:18 pm
by Skybox
Interested to hear about IQ's next deal...If TOR gets lucky, noone will waste time pitching an offer that's bound to be matched. If it's $25m - fine...$30m+ could get ugly.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:20 pm
by TheNetsFan
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Seeing this laid out like this really hammers home that you can't look at current and past salaries and cringe at newer contracts. All focus needs to be on the percentage of the cap. $51mil projects to be only 22% of the cap in 6 years. That's mind boggling.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:20 pm
by tidho
MotownMadness wrote:Rookie max is crazy expensive

He deserves it but man. Cade is gonna get one of these causing all kinds of debates.


Same with Mobley. Probably neither guy is quite there at this point, but it's going to happen.

Gets tricky in HOU with Green.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:33 pm
by gswhoops
tidho wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Rookie max is crazy expensive

He deserves it but man. Cade is gonna get one of these causing all kinds of debates.


Same with Mobley. Probably neither guy is quite there at this point, but it's going to happen.

Gets tricky in HOU with Green.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say that Cade and Mobley both get rookie maxes (with maybe a TO or UNG money on the back end) and Green doesn't get extended this offseason.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Barnes To Re-Sign In Toronto [Rookie Scale Max]

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:00 pm
by oldncreaky
Barnes, with the all-NBA kicker to 30% of the max, is a good deal

Barnes at 25% of the max is a great deal. It's still solid even if he doesn't advance much from the current level where he squeaked into the All-Star game as an injury replacement.

This deal makes a bit of an argument for Toronto to do a mini-tank because it is really hard to see Scottie making an all-NBA team if/when TOR falls short of the Play-in and having him locked in at less than 25% of the cap makes it easier to build a team around him. Trading/releasing Brown and leaving the backup PG to a rookie or UDA ought to be enough to insure a mini-tank; trading Poeltl and leaving the starting C spot to Olynyk would cement it, but has downsides in terms of development/roles/growth. I say just leave backup PG as the festering sore it has been for the last 3 years so that the cap sheet can look good through the rest of the decade.