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CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:53 am
by Laimbeer
Fox/Barnes
for
Garland/Allen/6M filler - picks?
Kings get a solid rim defender next to Sabonis.
Cavs get a guard upgrade and resolve the Allen/Mobley fit issues.
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:56 am
by HornetJail
Sabonis was unlocked when you no longer had another 7 footer clogging his space (even though said 7 footer could shoot some threes). Allen is not the answer here. In any case, defensively you want a more versatile defender to play the Aaron Gordon role rather than a pure rim protector
I really like a Sabonis/Mobley frontcourt
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:06 am
by Presser
Leaves Cavs to thin upfront. And Fox is a ball dominate undersized guard just like Garland would leave to same issues
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:07 am
by DowJones
Fox doesn’t fit with Mitchell. This is a bad deal for the Cavs.
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:11 am
by axeman23
You want Cavs to add picks for this swap, while getting SIGNIFICANTLY older, thus further shrinking their window? There's a gap between Fox and Garland, I'll give you (also a 2 year age gap), but the gap between 26 year old JA and 32 year old Barnes is appreciably larger, IMO. Also, doesnt really solve the Cavs defensive issues in the backcourt, while there is only 1 ball to shoot between Fox and Mitchell. At which point Mobley should resign himself to never seeing the ball aside from rebounds and on the defensive end, and ask out before he has his development and career earnings stunted further by others. I'm CERTAINLY not adding "picks" from the Cleveland side, personally...
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:37 am
by balsamic_ducks
You can’t play sabonis and Allen together. Not in today’s NBA.
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:48 am
by tidho
CLE is moving bodies because their roster construction is atrocious. Swapping Garland for Fox doesn't improve that, I think it's actually worse as Fox and Mitchell are pretty much the same guy. Allen and Sabonis don't really work together either, we saw evidence of that when Sabonis was in IND.
It appears CLE's whole purpose in life is to make Mitchell look like a superstar. That means they need to play 5-out (hence Atkinson) because Mitchell is too small to be effective if the paint is clogged. I'd expect every deal they make to be exclusively about increasing their ability to spread the floor. Barnes does that here, but Fox doesn't - and he's far to ball dominant to put next to Mitchell.
Re: CLE/SAC (needs help)
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:15 pm
by jbk1234
This is really bad for the Cavs. Value, fit, etc.