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king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#1 » by Syko_boB » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:49 am

CHA
OUT Davis Bertans, 27 MIA Lotto Pro 1st
IN Dorian Finney-Smith, 28 CHA or LAC 2nd

Hornets upgrade their roster with another versatile forward

Williams / Richards
Williams / Finney-Smith
Bridges / Salaun / Martin
Miller / Mann / Smith Jr
Ball / Micic


BRK
OUT Cam Johnson, Dorian Finney-Smith
IN Kevin Huerter, Tim Hardaway Jr, Trey Lyles, 27 SAC 1st, 27 MIA 1st

The Nets accumulate assets and add fuel to the tank

Claxton / Sharpe
Bogdanovic / Clowney / Wilson
Huerter / Bates-Diop
Hardaway Jr / Whitehead
Thomas / Schroder


DAL
OUT Tim Hardaway Jr, 25 TOR 2nd, 28 CHA or LAC 2nd
IN Harrison Barnes

The Mavs add more size on the wing

Lively / Gafford / Powell
Washington / Kleber
Barnes / Jones Jr / Prosper
Doncic / Green / Lawson
Irving / Hardy

SAC
OUT Harrison Barnes, Trey Lyles, Kevin Huerter, 27 1st, 25 POR 2nd
IN Cam Johnson, Robert Williams III, Matisse Thybulle

Kings make their move to solidify their defense

Sabonis / Williams III
Murray / Jones
Johnson / Thybulle / McDaniels
Ellis / Monk / Duarte
Fox / Carter / Simpson / Shead


POR
OUT Robert Williams III, Matisse Thybulle
IN Davis Bertans, 25 TOR 2nd, 25 POR 2nd

Blazers make space for their rookies

Ayton / Clingan / Reath
Grant / Murray / Camara
Sharpe / Walker
Simons / Rupert / Kolek
Henderson / Carrington / Banton
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Re: king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#2 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:06 am

DFS doesn't have this kind of value (I didn't think Sacry Terry had it either, but that's neither here nor there...)
CamJo also doesn't have this king of value, for a young shooter on MLE deal + neutral contract, it's too close to add a 1st.
I don't think the Blazers are looking for cap relief anymore after the Avdija trade.
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Re: king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#3 » by Myth » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:59 am

OP, that Blazers roster is a mess. I think you missed a couple trades Blazers made the last 2 days looking at that roster you gave us. We have Avdija now, and don’t have Carrington or Kolek. Plus you gave us Bertans and didn’t include him in our roster. Then you have people out of position all over the place (Walker at SF but Murray at PF?)

As for the trade itself, I do agree with moving some vets, but I disagree with the value coming back here.
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Post#4 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:05 pm

I dont think Barnes has two 2nd round picks more value than THJ. I like Barnes more than most Mavs fans, but he isnt worth giving up those 2 seconds with THJ considering his contract is longer and he's not a huge upgrade over what is going out
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Post#5 » by bpcox05 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:38 pm

Who is Jones at backup PF for the Kings? If that’s supposed to be Colby Jones, he’s a SG.

Also, the 2025 POR 2nd no longer belongs to SAC. It was sent out with Mitchell, Vezenkov, and #45.

As for the trade itself, not a big fan of this direction. I’d rather find a PF with size/length that keeps Murray at SF (to help combat Sabonis’ lack of length at C). Johnson isn’t that guy. I’d also prefer to not invest that much cap in a backup C who will only get 12-14 mpg. We need to be more wise in how we use that money with these aprons.

I’d rather hold onto our future 1sts this off-season and make a trade that balances the roster while (at most) cost us 2nd round picks. That gives us the next year to further assess what Murray will become (star or 3&D player), if Ellis is the real deal (larger sample size), and if Carter is a stud and should be our starting SG. We then go into the 2025 offseason with all of our future 1sts available to trade (since the 2025 1st is only Top 12 Protected this year and will likely convey) and be in a great position to make a big swing while having more intel on what we think our young guys will grow into.
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Re: king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#6 » by JRoy » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:12 pm

Syko_boB wrote:CHA
OUT Davis Bertans, 27 MIA Lotto Pro 1st
IN Dorian Finney-Smith, 28 CHA or LAC 2nd

Hornets upgrade their roster with another versatile forward

Williams / Richards
Williams / Finney-Smith
Bridges / Salaun / Martin
Miller / Mann / Smith Jr
Ball / Micic


BRK
OUT Cam Johnson, Dorian Finney-Smith
IN Kevin Huerter, Tim Hardaway Jr, Trey Lyles, 27 SAC 1st, 27 MIA 1st

The Nets accumulate assets and add fuel to the tank

Claxton / Sharpe
Bogdanovic / Clowney / Wilson
Huerter / Bates-Diop
Hardaway Jr / Whitehead
Thomas / Schroder


DAL
OUT Tim Hardaway Jr, 25 TOR 2nd, 28 CHA or LAC 2nd
IN Harrison Barnes

The Mavs add more size on the wing

Lively / Gafford / Powell
Washington / Kleber
Barnes / Jones Jr / Prosper
Doncic / Green / Lawson
Irving / Hardy

SAC
OUT Harrison Barnes, Trey Lyles, Kevin Huerter, 27 1st, 25 POR 2nd
IN Cam Johnson, Robert Williams III, Matisse Thybulle

Kings make their move to solidify their defense

Sabonis / Williams III
Murray / Jones
Johnson / Thybulle / McDaniels
Ellis / Monk / Duarte
Fox / Carter / Simpson / Shead


POR
OUT Robert Williams III, Matisse Thybulle
IN Davis Bertans, 25 TOR 2nd, 25 POR 2nd

Blazers make space for their rookies

Ayton / Clingan / Reath
Grant / Murray / Camara
Sharpe / Walker
Simons / Rupert / Kolek
Henderson / Carrington / Banton


Pass for POR.

POR needs to look for more value.
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Re: king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#7 » by HornetJail » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:31 pm

glad we could donate a 1st for your noble cause of gifting free **** to the nets
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Re: king blazes hornet in net on maverick 

Post#8 » by Village Idiot » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:57 pm

Portland isn't going to just give away assets to open up playing time
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