Brandon Ingram to Orlando

[Skin]

Magic receive Brandon Ingram

Pelicans receive Wendell Carter Jr, Cole Anthony, 2025 1st (via DEN), 2026 ORL 1st (unprotected)

Pelicans have a lot of nice things going for them, but they could really benefit from a center like WCj who could spread the floor for Zion to operate inside. WCj also has 2 years left at a bargain contract ($11/10M respectively). Missi is a rookie who does not spread the floor and is not an exceptional rebounder. Cole Anthony could also provide an offensive spark and bring life to the lockerroom.

PG Dejounte Murray / Cole Anthony / Jose Alvarado
SG CJ McCollum / Jordan Hawkins / Antonio Reeves
SF Herb Jones / Trey Murphy III
PF Zion Williamson / Naji Marshall
C Wendell Carter Jr / Yves Missi / Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

The Magic have a unique need and Ingram is one of the few in the league that fits. Due to the playmaking of Paolo and Franz, a traditional PG is not a priority. They can slide Suggs to the 1 and allow Ingram to start at the 2. This gives them the length at the position that they covet. Ingram also works because his 5.7 apg will keep the ball flowing constantly. His star power and scoring punch will make the Magic HAPPY to give him a new contract over $50M per year and they have the cash room to do it.

PG Jalen Suggs / Anthony Black
SG Brandon Ingram / Jett Howard
SF Franz Wagner / Tristan da Silva
PF Paolo Banchero / Jonathan Isaac
C Mo Wagner / ???

[BuddyBuckets]

Pels would rather WCJ and Isaac imo. No need for Anthony on Pels roster.

[Skin]

Pels would rather WCJ and Isaac imo. No need for Anthony on Pels roster.

Cole and JI don't have the same value. We could send Chuma Okeke.

[BuddyBuckets]

Pels would rather WCJ and Isaac imo. No need for Anthony on Pels roster.

Cole and JI don't have the same value. We could send Chuma Okeke.

Ingram is borderline all star.... Isaac and WCJ is fine value.

[Skin]

Pels would rather WCJ and Isaac imo. No need for Anthony on Pels roster.

Cole and JI don't have the same value. We could send Chuma Okeke.

Ingram is borderline all star.... Isaac and WCJ is fine value.

There's a reason why NOR is hesitant to pay him an extension and is on the blcok. No thanks. Wouldn't do that deal.

Would be willing to send another 1st Rounder to make it WCj and 3 1st Rounders in total. Mikal Bridges and Dejounte Murray have similar deals.

[BuddyBuckets]

Cole and JI don't have the same value. We could send Chuma Okeke.

Ingram is borderline all star.... Isaac and WCJ is fine value.

There's a reason why NOR is hesitant to pay him an extension and is on the blcok. No thanks. Wouldn't do that deal.

Would be willing to send another 1st Rounder to make it WCj and 3 1st Rounders in total. Mikal Bridges and Dejounte Murray have similar deals.

No reason for Pels to take back dead weight when trading Ingram. Neither Isaac or WCJ are close to the level of Ingram. Orlando can afford to pay Ingram with Franz and Suggs yet to be paid. Who else are they going to get that is better than Ingram for WCJ and Isaac? Lol

[Skin]

Ingram is borderline all star.... Isaac and WCJ is fine value.

There's a reason why NOR is hesitant to pay him an extension and is on the blcok. No thanks. Wouldn't do that deal.

Would be willing to send another 1st Rounder to make it WCj and 3 1st Rounders in total. Mikal Bridges and Dejounte Murray have similar deals.

No reason for Pels to take back dead weight when trading Ingram. Neither Isaac or WCJ are close to the level of Ingram. Orlando can afford to pay Ingram with Franz and Suggs yet to be paid. Who else are they going to get that is better than Ingram for WCJ and Isaac? Lol

ORL can extend Ingram this summer and go over the cap to retain their own players down the line, no problem. Not trading Isaac. Don't think we need to. Pelicans don't want to spend the money to keep Ingram and everyone knows it.

[BuddyBuckets]

There's a reason why NOR is hesitant to pay him an extension and is on the blcok. No thanks. Wouldn't do that deal.

Would be willing to send another 1st Rounder to make it WCj and 3 1st Rounders in total. Mikal Bridges and Dejounte Murray have similar deals.

No reason for Pels to take back dead weight when trading Ingram. Neither Isaac or WCJ are close to the level of Ingram. Orlando can afford to pay Ingram with Franz and Suggs yet to be paid. Who else are they going to get that is better than Ingram for WCJ and Isaac? Lol

ORL can extend Ingram this summer and go over the cap to retain their own players down the line, no problem. Not trading Isaac. Don't think we need to. Pelicans don't want to spend the money to keep Ingram and everyone knows it.

Then they just get someone better than WCJ.

[Skin]

No reason for Pels to take back dead weight when trading Ingram. Neither Isaac or WCJ are close to the level of Ingram. Orlando can afford to pay Ingram with Franz and Suggs yet to be paid. Who else are they going to get that is better than Ingram for WCJ and Isaac? Lol

ORL can extend Ingram this summer and go over the cap to retain their own players down the line, no problem. Not trading Isaac. Don't think we need to. Pelicans don't want to spend the money to keep Ingram and everyone knows it.

Then they just get someone better than WCJ.

If someone beats WCj, Cole, and 3 1sts, they deserve him.

Based on the trades for Bridges and Murray, I think that's about the going rate.

[BuddyBuckets]

ORL can extend Ingram this summer and go over the cap to retain their own players down the line, no problem. Not trading Isaac. Don't think we need to. Pelicans don't want to spend the money to keep Ingram and everyone knows it.

Then they just get someone better than WCJ.

If someone beats WCj, Cole, and 3 1sts, they deserve him.

Based on the trades for Bridges and Murray, I think that's about the going rate.

You can make it WCJ, Isaac & the Denver 1st and I'd be fine with it

[Skin]

Then they just get someone better than WCJ.

If someone beats WCj, Cole, and 3 1sts, they deserve him.

Based on the trades for Bridges and Murray, I think that's about the going rate.

You can make it WCJ, Isaac & the Denver 1st and I'd be fine with it

I don't know why you think that is even close after giving up Larry Nance, Dyson Daniels and similar picks that I'm offering for Murray.

Do you think Nance and Daniels equate to the value of Murray? Of course not.

[BuddyBuckets]

If someone beats WCj, Cole, and 3 1sts, they deserve him.

Based on the trades for Bridges and Murray, I think that's about the going rate.

You can make it WCJ, Isaac & the Denver 1st and I'd be fine with it

I don't know why you think that is even close after giving up Larry Nance, Dyson Daniels and similar picks that I'm offering for Murray.

Do you think Nance and Daniels equate to the value of Murray? Of course not.

Nance Jr is okay but isn't starter material. Dyson is offensively inept outside of ball handling and facilitating.

My argument is the Pels shouldnt sell too low on Ingram. As soon as one team wants to pay Ingram a max extension then guess what? You can't hold Nawlins ransom on that. There will be a team willing to give Ingram 50 mil a year. If there truly isn't, the Pels extend him at a lower cost and trade CJ.

So there's no gun to my head here about Ingram. WCJ and Isaac don't excite me at all but they could work with what the Pels have and CJ + picks probably isn't going to get Orlando to trade those guys. So it's the guys the Pels actually wants and draft compensation for Ingram who is by far the best player in the deal.

[Skin]

You can make it WCJ, Isaac & the Denver 1st and I'd be fine with it

I don't know why you think that is even close after giving up Larry Nance, Dyson Daniels and similar picks that I'm offering for Murray.

Do you think Nance and Daniels equate to the value of Murray? Of course not.

Nance Jr is okay but isn't starter material. Dyson is offensively inept outside of ball handling and facilitating.

My argument is the Pels shouldnt sell too low on Ingram. As soon as one team wants to pay Ingram a max extension then guess what? You can't hold Nawlins ransom on that. There will be a team willing to give Ingram 50 mil a year. If there truly isn't, the Pels extend him at a lower cost and trade CJ.

So there's no gun to my head here about Ingram. WCJ and Isaac don't excite me at all but they could work with what the Pels have and CJ + picks probably isn't going to get Orlando to trade those guys. So it's the guys the Pels actually wants and draft compensation for Ingram who is by far the best player in the deal.

My point is Nance and Daniels are no where near Murray's value. Same can be said of WCj and Anthony/Okeke. It doesn't matter. NBA trades are not like fantasy sports trades where values are based on matching player output/worth, especially when draft picks are attached.

Writing is on the wall for Ingram to go.

[BuddyBuckets]

I don't know why you think that is even close after giving up Larry Nance, Dyson Daniels and similar picks that I'm offering for Murray.

Do you think Nance and Daniels equate to the value of Murray? Of course not.

Nance Jr is okay but isn't starter material. Dyson is offensively inept outside of ball handling and facilitating.

My argument is the Pels shouldnt sell too low on Ingram. As soon as one team wants to pay Ingram a max extension then guess what? You can't hold Nawlins ransom on that. There will be a team willing to give Ingram 50 mil a year. If there truly isn't, the Pels extend him at a lower cost and trade CJ.

So there's no gun to my head here about Ingram. WCJ and Isaac don't excite me at all but they could work with what the Pels have and CJ + picks probably isn't going to get Orlando to trade those guys. So it's the guys the Pels actually wants and draft compensation for Ingram who is by far the best player in the deal.

My point is Nance and Daniels are no where near Murray's value. Same can be said of WCj and Anthony/Okeke. It doesn't matter. NBA trades are not like fantasy sports trades where values are based on matching player output/worth, especially when draft picks are attached.

Writing is on the wall for Ingram to go.

Write whatever you want. Pels aren't trading him for half a solution to their roster issues.

[Astaluego]

Aside from the value, I think Ingram is not an ideal fit and overlaps with Wagner (high secondary, doubtful 3) and earns a million. However, I think something between CJ for WCJ would make sense. NOP could send Ingram somewhere else, even...

WCJ/Ingram to WOLVES
a smaller version of KAT but much cheaper in Carter and another star who provides the creation he needs + Towns' score. +depth/Flexibility

Gobert/Reid
Ingram/WCJ
Mcdaniels/Miller/T.Shannon
Edwards/NAW
Conley/Dillingham

CJ to MAGIC
great fit (elite shooting, seniority, another creator) and only 2 years on contract

Hartestein??/M.Wagner
P.Banchelo/Issak
Wagner/Da Silva
Suggs/Black
CJ/Cole

TOWNS..
perfect fit next to Zion and savings (69 x 50) to complete the depth

Towns/Missi
Zion/JRE
Murphy/Marshall?
Herb/Hawkins
Murray/Alvarado

[Whole Truth]

No reason for Pels to take back dead weight when trading Ingram. Neither Isaac or WCJ are close to the level of Ingram. Orlando can afford to pay Ingram with Franz and Suggs yet to be paid. Who else are they going to get that is better than Ingram for WCJ and Isaac? Lol

ORL can extend Ingram this summer and go over the cap to retain their own players down the line, no problem. Not trading Isaac. Don't think we need to. Pelicans don't want to spend the money to keep Ingram and everyone knows it.

Then they just get someone better than WCJ.

Yeah, if it's BI & not CJ to Magic, I'd want Isaac & picks over WCJ.

[Whole Truth]

Aside from the value, I think Ingram is not an ideal fit and overlaps with Wagner (high secondary, doubtful 3) and earns a million. However, I think something between CJ for WCJ would make sense. NOP could send Ingram somewhere else, even...

WCJ/Ingram to WOLVES
a smaller version of KAT but much cheaper in Carter and another star who provides the creation he needs + Towns' score. +depth/Flexibility

Gobert/Reid
Ingram/WCJ
Mcdaniels/Miller/T.Shannon
Edwards/NAW
Conley/Dillingham

CJ to MAGIC
great fit (elite shooting, seniority, another creator) and only 2 years on contract

Hartestein??/M.Wagner
P.Banchelo/Issak
Wagner/Da Silva
Suggs/Black
CJ/Cole

TOWNS..
perfect fit next to Zion and savings (69 x 50) to complete the depth

Towns/Missi
Zion/JRE
Murphy/Marshall?
Herb/Hawkins
Murray/Alvarado

Upvoted for CJ instead of BI's fit for Magic, not so much Kat, not a fan.

[Whole Truth]

Nance Jr is okay but isn't starter material. Dyson is offensively inept outside of ball handling and facilitating.

My argument is the Pels shouldnt sell too low on Ingram. As soon as one team wants to pay Ingram a max extension then guess what? You can't hold Nawlins ransom on that. There will be a team willing to give Ingram 50 mil a year. If there truly isn't, the Pels extend him at a lower cost and trade CJ.

So there's no gun to my head here about Ingram. WCJ and Isaac don't excite me at all but they could work with what the Pels have and CJ + picks probably isn't going to get Orlando to trade those guys. So it's the guys the Pels actually wants and draft compensation for Ingram who is by far the best player in the deal.

My point is Nance and Daniels are no where near Murray's value. Same can be said of WCj and Anthony/Okeke. It doesn't matter. NBA trades are not like fantasy sports trades where values are based on matching player output/worth, especially when draft picks are attached.

Writing is on the wall for Ingram to go.

Write whatever you want. Pels aren't trading him for half a solution to their roster issues.

I don't think he knows BI wants to stay but is being traded out of preference to cheaply start Murphy. NO's have no need or desperation to trade BI now other than wanting to start Murphy.

[Magicman125]

Idk if I trust Franz or Ingram to have the lateral quickness to defend 2s. I just don't think the fit is very good for ORL.

[Residual-Heat]

I dont think BI has more value than Siakam did when he was traded. I think this package is better than what Toronto got for Siakam, so I think this is a slight overpay, but not too bad.