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Color me underwhelmed.

saw Sweeney finished 2nd. Good for Dallas to keep him another year.

Love the hire, mainly because it keeps Sweeney in DAL, I also think he was good in CLE and was treated unfairly.
He's a better RS coach than PO coach, but Pistons should be happy with good RS for now.

Feels like a "safe" hire for Detroit. He'll get paid relative peanuts why they pay off Monty Williams' contract.

The general consensus among Piston fans is “sure fine whatever”.

I’ll be really honest and say I have no idea how he would mesh with the group we have.

So I guess I agree with the consensus.

It appears he’s not a great playoff coach but that’s hardly a short term concern for us.

Can’t be worse than Monty.
Though maybe it was more roster construction. I think JB is a good coach. Will. E good for Detroit


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The Coaching Carousel slows down so JB can jump back on. I don't get it, the guy has been around the block with several teams. All I can figure is that the front office knows that they aren't going to be even a .500 or play in team for 3 years. So they bring in JB to pretty much tank, sort out the rotation, see who stays, who they can draft in the next couple of years and if they look like they're ready to make a few steps up, fire him for the playoff caliber coach.

Honestly i'm just happy they have a coach heading into free agency although I don't expect them to be a big player in the market. I'm not sure if they are in a position to gamble on an unknown guy or attract a more experienced guy with a better track record.

Wonder if they try to poach Okoro with their cap space now. He'd be a pretty good fit with Cunningham/Ivey.

The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

jbk1234 wrote:The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

Curious Detroit fan here, can you tell me what he’s like as a communicator and leader? Do players gravitate towards a him or is he a guy that grinds them a little and after a while they get fed up with him?

Detroit may as well take a chance on a college coach or something

jbk1234 wrote:The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

I don't think he gets enough credit. when garland and mobley went down that very easily could have gone sideways. seems like what he was able to do effectively in cleveland developing the right mentality is what detroit most needs.

A_dub06 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

Curious Detroit fan here, can you tell me what he’s like as a communicator and leader? Do players gravitate towards a him or is he a guy that grinds them a little and after a while they get fed up with him?

He had the good fortune of following Beilein so he was well received on the Cavs. That said, it's going to depend on the player. If a player is resistant to coaching, or decides to play contract ball, that player will find their role diminished.

jbk1234 wrote:

A_dub06 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

Curious Detroit fan here, can you tell me what he’s like as a communicator and leader? Do players gravitate towards a him or is he a guy that grinds them a little and after a while they get fed up with him?

He had the good fortune of following Beilein so he was well received on the Cavs. That said, it's going to depend on the player. If a player is resistant to coaching, or decides to play contract ball, that player will find their role diminished.

Most of our guys are high character and want to be coached, in fact I’ve never seen anything from any of them showing they don’t. Monty definitely pissed off a couple guys Cade included which was visible at times and he completely screwed Ivey around which kindve seemed as though Ivey had no idea why he was in the dog house. As long as he’s a communicator and the guys know what he expects and what he doesn’t want, I think his hiring can work from what you’ve told me

Netaman wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:The best thing about JB is that he'll insist guys play hard on defense. If it's up to him, he'll make guys earn minutes. He's big on execution. If you want young players to develop good habits, he's a good coach.

I also think he improved as a coach over his tenure with the Cavs. He still has to work on balancing offense/defense with his rotations. He's reactive rather than proactive when it comes to matchup issues, and he can be rather stubborn on top of it. But that's all next level stuff for when the Pistons get to the playoffs.

I don't think he gets enough credit. when garland and mobley went down that very easily could have gone sideways. seems like what he was able to do effectively in cleveland developing the right mentality is what detroit most needs.

He gets guys to play hard for him, and he doesn't go deep into his bench, so if you get an opportunity, you'd do well to make the most of it. That said, it really helped that the Cavs played the softest part of their schedule during that 18-2 run. Conversely, it really hurt that the Mitchell, Strus, Wade, and Mobley all were out during the murders row run in March.

A_dub06 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

A_dub06 wrote:
Curious Detroit fan here, can you tell me what he’s like as a communicator and leader? Do players gravitate towards a him or is he a guy that grinds them a little and after a while they get fed up with him?

He had the good fortune of following Beilein so he was well received on the Cavs. That said, it's going to depend on the player. If a player is resistant to coaching, or decides to play contract ball, that player will find their role diminished.

Most of our guys are high character and want to be coached, in fact I’ve never seen anything from any of them showing they don’t. Monty definitely pissed off a couple guys Cade included which was visible at times and he completely screwed Ivey around which kindve seemed as though Ivey had no idea why he was in the dog house. As long as he’s a communicator and the guys know what he expects and what he doesn’t want, I think his hiring can work from what you’ve told me

JB is bad with X and Os, makes poor adjustments, and gets into the refs way to much. This is why he struggled elevatating a good team and was a poor fit for the Cavs at this time because they’re no longer a Pistons and have high expectations. With that being said he should be a good 3 year coach for the Pistons because he seems to be very good at motivating his team and getting them to play with there back against the wall.

With the roster murky fits as is, what would he try in a rotation? There is limited spacing here, so curious how JB thinks outside the box to make this roster make sense on the floor.

Mavrelous wrote:Love the hire, mainly because it keeps Sweeney in DAL, I also think he was good in CLE and was treated unfairly.
He's a better RS coach than PO coach, but Pistons should be happy with good RS for now.

What is this play-off thing you mention?


If JB is a good regular season coach for Detroit, it's a good hire for the foreseeable future

A_dub06 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

A_dub06 wrote:
Curious Detroit fan here, can you tell me what he’s like as a communicator and leader? Do players gravitate towards a him or is he a guy that grinds them a little and after a while they get fed up with him?

He had the good fortune of following Beilein so he was well received on the Cavs. That said, it's going to depend on the player. If a player is resistant to coaching, or decides to play contract ball, that player will find their role diminished.

Most of our guys are high character and want to be coached, in fact I’ve never seen anything from any of them showing they don’t. Monty definitely pissed off a couple guys Cade included which was visible at times and he completely screwed Ivey around which kindve seemed as though Ivey had no idea why he was in the dog house. As long as he’s a communicator and the guys know what he expects and what he doesn’t want, I think his hiring can work from what you’ve told me

Question, what went wrong with Monty from your perspective? Was it just the communication or did the players also have a big role in it? How would you describe Monty as a coach?

I didn't really follow the drama between Monty and the team but I thought I remember hearing that he was also trying to instill a strong defensive identity in the team. I thought that was part of the reason that Ivey was moved to the bench which created some friction. The way JB is being described sounds similar to Monty in ways.