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Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:27 pm
by bondom34
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Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/???,]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:28 pm
by Texas Chuck
Good player. Fits their defensive mindset and he's a plus shooter which helps. Orlando just got better.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/???,]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:29 pm
by BayAreaDub
Guess I’ll wait to see the $$$ but solid pick up for them
EDIT- whoop there it is, now they just need to swoop up a point guard
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:29 pm
by tiderulz
dont like it. KCP just an older version of Suggs. we needed a PG upgrade.
it improves the team, but this just means more of Suggs at PG which is not his strength
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:30 pm
by bondom34
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Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:31 pm
by OxAndFox
Good signing. KCP also has the championship experience so that is huge for a young team.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:33 pm
by jjohns828
Bad fit, needed a bigger offensive upgrade in our backcourt then him and an actual PG.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:33 pm
by MadNESS
Dude is one of the best 3 and D players in the league, one of the "elite" role players. I remember when we got laughed at for signing him. 2 championships later, here he is getting $22,000,000 per year. Good for him.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:33 pm
by BBallFreak
tiderulz wrote:dont like it. KCP just an older version of Suggs. we needed a PG upgrade.
it improves the team, but this just means more of Suggs at PG which is not his strength
I agree, and he doesn't solve your problems on offense, at all. He's just a good role player who can give you 12 to 15 a game when what you needed was a guy who could take over at point guard (or at least split with Suggs) and give you around 20 a game, but you are a better team, now. Be grateful for that.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 pm
by tiderulz
BBallFreak wrote:tiderulz wrote:dont like it. KCP just an older version of Suggs. we needed a PG upgrade.
it improves the team, but this just means more of Suggs at PG which is not his strength
I agree, and he doesn't solve your problems on offense, at all. He's just a good role player who can give you 12 to 15 a game when what you needed was a guy who could take over at point guard (or at least split with Suggs) and give you around 20 a game.
he solves a little. good 3 pt shooter and Orlando was bottom of the league in 3 pt %.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 pm
by jbk1234
I like KCP. I like the Magic. That said, they still need a PG and they're going to have to do it via trade now.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 pm
by Waynearchetype
Like it if he's coming off the bench and they get a point guard.
Hate it if they run Suggs at point.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:37 pm
by R-DAWG
Contract seems very reasonable at 22MM per year for an excellent 3 and D player with championship experience.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:38 pm
by hugepatsfan
Let's see the rest of their offseason before we judge the final picture of what they still need.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:42 pm
by Residual-Heat
not a bad contract.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:42 pm
by giberish
Decent value. Denver's going to have issues.
Orlando going for more defense over offensive upgrade. I think they still some more cap space but they're probably only shopping for a bench guy.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:50 pm
by psman2
Good player, suspect fit. Orlando needed more creation at the guard spot than what KCP is capable of.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:53 pm
by moss_is_1
Like it don't love it. As others have said they need more of a PG to get guys some easy looks. He does bring good overall player, and will give some much needed championship experience.
Like it even more because a west team gets a little weaker as well.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:54 pm
by BeiBeau
With Braun moving up to the starting lineup does Denver have any real playoff rotation pieces outside of the starters?
The MPJ contract is biting them in the ass so hard.
Re: Zilgett: Caldwell-Pope To Orlando [3/$66M per Wojnarowski]
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:58 pm
by Blazinaway
psman2 wrote:Good player, suspect fit. Orlando needed more creation at the guard spot than what KCP is capable of.
still like Simons fit better but this only cost ORL capspace, maybe they think Black can start to step it up