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Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:48 pm
by HeatIn5
Heat get - John Collins, Tre Jones, 2029 protected 1st (SA), 2025 2nd round pick
Heat give up - Tyler Herro, Orlando Robinson

Why for Miami - currently Bam and Herro are the only player not on a rookie contract on the books in 2026-2027. Herro has fallen out of touch in Miami and with a deep roster and a number of shooters they could look to move him. Collins comes home to south florida and is a good expiring contract to have around next year for the Heat, even though 2026-2027 is the goal. Tre Jones will be a good consistent backup PG and they get a few picks back.

Jazz get - Tyler Herro, Keldon Johnson, 4 1sts from SA (2025, 2025 CHA, 2027, 2031) and 2 pick swaps from SA
Jazz give up - Lauri Markkanen, John Collins

Why for Utah - Herro and Keldon both played at Kentucky and are notably friends. Bringing both of them on contracts that align, 3 years out, plus 4 1sts and 2 swaps (that Charlotte 2025 pick being the nicest prize). Utah could opt to reroute 1 pick to Miami and keep 4 in order for Miami to help facilitate the trade, as SA wouldn't want Collins.

Spurs get - Lauri Markkanen, Orlando Robinson (for $ to work)
Spurs give up - Tre Jones, Keldon Johnson, 5 1st round picks, 2 pick swaps, 1 2nd round pick

Why for Spurs - They get the best player in the deal and a virtual super team.

Who says no?

Re: Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:51 pm
by BBallFreak
HeatIn5 wrote:Heat get - John Collins, Tre Jones, 2029 protected 1st (SA), 2025 2nd round pick
Heat give up - Tyler Herro, Orlando Robinson

Jazz get - Tyler Herro, Keldon Johnson, 4 1sts from SA (2025, 2025 CHA, 2027, 2031) and 2 pick swaps from SA
Jazz give up - Lauri Markkanen, John Collins

Spurs get - Lauri Markkanen, Orlando Robinson (for $ to work)
Spurs give up - Tre Jones, Keldon Johnson, 5 1st round picks, 2 pick swaps, 1 2nd round pick

Who says no?

You have to put reasons why each team does the trade. Otherwise it gets locked.

I personally love it for Miami, but I think the Jazz are going to want that first round pick you've got us getting.

San Antonio obviously says yes.

I love it for Miami.

Re: Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:58 pm
by OutsidetheNBA
You're overvaluing Herro. He's worth John Collins + Tre Jones, and maybe a couple of 2nds or a protected swap. Not a 1st.

I think the Spurs decline. They have every reason to be patient and build slowly. 5 picks for a borderline all-star PF when Wemby is still 19 is a bad move.

Re: Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 11:13 pm
by Rockazoids
OutsidetheNBA wrote:You're overvaluing Herro. He's worth John Collins + Tre Jones, and maybe a couple of 2nds or a protected swap. Not a 1st.

I think the Spurs decline. They have every reason to be patient and build slowly. 5 picks for a borderline all-star PF when Wemby is still 19 is a bad move.

Overvaluing Lauri Markkanen too, 5 1st, 1 2nd, 2 1st swaps, along with Tre Jones & Keldon Johnson,is a big overpay.
That foolishness :crazy:

Re: Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 11:14 pm
by babyjax13
Take Miami out, send us the pick.

Re: Jazz, Heat, Spurs

Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 11:18 pm
by Chinook
Really confused as to why Miami is in this trade.