Rockets and Suns

shagadelic45 · Post #1 » by **shagadelic45** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:52 pm

HOU TRADES: FVV, Sengun, Whitmore

PHX TRADES: Durant, Nurkic, Little

Rockets make a splash with a rumored interest in getting a superstar to lead the team..........

Suns get under the apron and remain competitive

DirtyDez · Post #2 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:01 pm

If the Suns got that offer they’d be idiots to pass on it.

LarsV8 · Post #3 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:02 pm

Nah, we good.

We would want Booker and we would want to pay in picks.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #4 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:24 pm

Booker, Nurkic for Sengun, FVV, Amen Thompson

FVV
Beal
Amen Thompson
KD
Sengun

LarsV8 · Post #5 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:37 pm

Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

Post #6 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:39 pm

LarsV8 wrote:Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

It's just so far from reasonable. Book is still top 15. His price is definitely higher than Mikal. You gotta put a blue chip in to get that guy.

I think you add Sengun and drop one of the 1sts and it's a convo.

Devilanche · Post #7 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:50 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

It's just so far from reasonable. Book is still top 15. His price is definitely higher than Mikal. You gotta put a blue chip in to get that guy.

I think you add Sengun and drop one of the 1sts and it's a convo.

One of whitmore , amen or Eason should be enough in return for one of the first.Rockets take 1 of the 3 off the table and suns get to choose between the remaining 2.

LarsV8 · Post #8 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:57 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
It's just so far from reasonable. Book is still top 15. His price is definitely higher than Mikal. You gotta put a blue chip in to get that guy.

I think you add Sengun and drop one of the 1sts and it's a convo.

Sengun isn't going anywhere.

Jalen Green is in there, a high upside prospect and 4 picks is enough.

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:58 pm

The Suns might trade Booker in 2026 if they're out of other moves, but I don't see anyway they do it in the summer of 2024. The moment they trade Booker, both Durant and Beal ask out. They're not going to blow up that team this season.

Fo-Real · Post #10 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:20 am

Naa, we good.

jredsaz · Post #11 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 2:58 am

DirtyDez wrote:If the Suns got that offer they’d be idiots to pass on it.

Seriously? I don’t think so at all. I like Sengun but it’s hard to build around bad defensive bigs. If he becomes 90% of Joker it’s great but Id want picks and wings back for KD - and not Jalen Green.

jredsaz · Post #12 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:02 am

LarsV8 wrote:Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

I really don’t think the Rockets would be able to dictate the Suns trade options like this just because they have the Suns picks. Not that Boom is going anywhere for a couple season and least. If this season is like last season, you can start making legit Booker proposals but Green won’t be relevant.

K_chile22 · Post #13 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:02 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

It's just so far from reasonable. Book is still top 15. His price is definitely higher than Mikal. You gotta put a blue chip in to get that guy.

I think you add Sengun and drop one of the 1sts and it's a convo.

Those picks are way more valuable than the Knicks picks BKN got tbf if the suns are blowing it up whenever this theoreticak trade is and Green is still (theoretically) something more than filler.
But yeah there'd have to be some combo of swaps/Whitmore/Eason/Houstons own picks added, don't think they'd add Sengun

Slim Charless · Post #14 » by **Slim Charless** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:06 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:Again, we would be looking to pay in picks, not our prospects.

Booker

for

Brooks
JaGreen
Landale
2025 Suns Swap Relinquished
2027 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Suns #1 Unprotected
2029 Mavs #1 Unprotected

It's just so far from reasonable. Book is still top 15. His price is definitely higher than Mikal. You gotta put a blue chip in to get that guy.

I think you add Sengun and drop one of the 1sts and it's a convo.

That's an insulting offer that he did bordering on trolling IMO. I'd respond in kind with an equally insulting offer to that guy but I assume I'd catch a strike for posting it lol.

Your offer is better.

Mr Puddles · Post #15 » by **Mr Puddles** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:28 am

LarsV8 wrote:Nah, we good.

We would want Booker and we would want to pay in picks.

Nah, we good

DirtyDez · Post #16 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:37 am

jredsaz wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:If the Suns got that offer they’d be idiots to pass on it.

Seriously? I don’t think so at all. I like Sengun but it’s hard to build around bad defensive bigs. If he becomes 90% of Joker it’s great but Id want picks and wings back for KD - and not Jalen Green.

I don’t think KD’s impact matches his numbers/accolades anymore. Plus he’s had one healthy outlier season since 2019 so I’d sell high right now.

jredsaz · Post #17 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:59 am

DirtyDez wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:If the Suns got that offer they’d be idiots to pass on it.

Seriously? I don’t think so at all. I like Sengun but it’s hard to build around bad defensive bigs. If he becomes 90% of Joker it’s great but Id want picks and wings back for KD - and not Jalen Green.

I don’t think KD’s impact matches his numbers/accolades anymore. Plus he’s had one healthy outlier season since 2019 so I’d sell high right now.

That’s fair, I just don’t think this is the kind of peak value I’d be looking for. Id want picks and 3/D wings.

But I mean everything you said could be true and Book and KD still give the Suns a punchers chance at a title. Year over year the roster is better around them. Giving them another run has a lot of value.

lpbman · Post #18 » by **lpbman** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:00 am

There just isn't a trade here, not until the Suns are ready to blow it up and get their picks back.

ThatBoyNick · Post #19 » by **ThatBoyNick** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 9:03 am

I’d assume an offer similar to this will stay on the table for Durant.

Brooks + salary fillers (Jeff, Landale, Tate) and the 3 Suns picks returned

I expect Suns pass easily right now, but maybe that changes by the deadline. I think we’d pay ALOT for Devin.

axeman23 · Post #20 » by **axeman23** » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:06 am

LarsV8 wrote:Nah, we good.

We would want Booker and we would want to pay in picks.

And Suns would like to be paid in picks while having an aging Durant on the books WHY? Sure, they could trade Durant for more picks again, but then they're starting again from ZERO...