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Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:44 pm
by jayjaysee
Dallas doesn’t want to trade our Maxi and no one actually values him. But I wanted to try anyways.

(This really should just be Kenrich for Maxi and Dallas aggregating with Mitchell to Dallas, paying Toronto a couple 2nds or whatever the breakdown of value is.. But that’s for the next thread.)

Toronto: Mitchell
Toronto: Dieng

Toronto trades a disappointing 4th year player for a disappointing 3rd year player that is 4 years younger. Toronto should be adding a second or something I think? But don’t assign much value to either player.

OKC: Dieng, Jaylin, and 2 2nds
OKC: Maxi and Dallas 2025 first top 6 protected

Presti gets another first and a backup four that fits really well with Chet or Hart.

Dallas: Maxi and a 2025 first (top 6 protected in case Luka gets hurt at the Olympics or a bar)
Dallas: Jaylin, Mitchell, and 2 2nds

Dallas keeps a backup PF on the roster but adds a POA defender. Also opens up some more apron space to use the rest of the MLE / a deadline trade etc. if they want to redo the supporting cast.

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:50 pm
by Mavrelous
I wouldn't give up on Dieng just yet if I'm OKC, very young 6'10" guys who can shoot and handle a bit deserve longer looks, longer than 2 years, and I wouldn't trade the 1st in 25 for this package if I'm DAL.
DSJ is available at vet min as POA defender who can't shoot.
Jaylin Williams can't really play the 4, I don't think he's a viable rotation player in the PO, he played for OKC out of necessity, they had no one else, and it was really bad, Maxi is a much better player than him at both the 4 and the 5...

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:51 pm
by MessiahUjiri
I would do it for Toronto. Not adding any picks.

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:57 pm
by jayjaysee
Mavrelous wrote:I wouldn't give up on Dieng just yet if I'm OKC, very young 6'10" guys who can shoot and handle a bit deserve longer looks, longer than 2 years, and I wouldn't trade the 1st in 25 for this package if I'm DAL.
DSJ is available at vet min as POA defender who can't shoot.
Jaylin Williams can't really play the 4, I don't think he's a viable rotation player in the PO, he played for OKC out of necessity, they had no one else, and it was really bad, Maxi is a much better player than him at both the 4 and the 5...


Yeah, I do like it better with Kenrich than Jaylin. Just couldn’t make the money work, though adding Powel would’ve solved that really..

I don’t mind Jaylin as much as you do though. He is a 4th big currently but he’s really young and can rebound and shoot. That’s nice to have.

I don’t know if DSJ is good now. I know Charlotte fans loved him. And then Brooklyn fans. But he’s still a vet min for a reason..

And yeah - I think overall the organization agrees that a healthy Maxi is better than most backup bigs in the league. Just hard to bet on that or for him to shoot when open..

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:04 pm
by oldncreaky
MessiahUjiri wrote:I would do it for Toronto. Not adding any picks.


I might? Agree wouldn't want to add picks because Toronto isn't close enough to competing to be giving up picks for a better fit on bench players

I see the argument for the swap, but then again I was looking forward to having 2 real, live actual PGs on the Raptors for the first time since Lowry left in 2021 -- it's so hard to have a functional bench with only 1 PG on the team.

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:22 pm
by jayjaysee
OKC closer to tax than I thought?

Don’t see this anymore

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 9:57 pm
by UnbelievablyRAW
oldncreaky wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:I would do it for Toronto. Not adding any picks.


I might? Agree wouldn't want to add picks because Toronto isn't close enough to competing to be giving up picks for a better fit on bench players

I see the argument for the swap, but then again I was looking forward to having 2 real, live actual PGs on the Raptors for the first time since Lowry left in 2021 -- it's so hard to have a functional bench with only 1 PG on the team.


Depends how much they believe in Shead who is older as a rookie as well. Not sure D. Mitchell was a true pg either to be fair

Re: Dallas/OKC/Toronto - Chuck’s fault*

Posted: Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:12 pm
by aguiar95
Boy is this bad for Dallas. Get two players that won't even crack the rotation come playoff time while spending one of their fewer assets. Heck no.