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Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:05 pm
by SNPA
Clear cut. That’s what Sac has on offer. How can it work? Ideally more of a 4/5 but a straight four who can defend works too. This is the final piece to Sac’s offseason if they really want to compete in the West. Trading Barnes made the hole at PF worse.
I don’t think it can be done with Portis because of the second apron.
Beef Stew remains a prime target IMO.
Kuzma but it’s rough defensively.
Kings can’t offer any other salary unless it’s for a big upgrade and they can add Lyles/Ellis/more picks. But that is far fetched. Any deal with Lyles going out undercuts itself somewhat.
Re: Heurter + 27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:11 pm
by gswhoops
Cam Johnson seems like a decent candidate here. Brandon Clarke, Jerami Grant are some other names I'd kick the tires on.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:20 pm
by gswhoops
Does SAC have the MLE left? Paul Reed or Precious Achiewa would be solid adds here as well.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:24 pm
by Tim Lehrbach
gswhoops wrote:Does SAC have the MLE left? Paul Reed or Precious Achiewa would be solid adds here as well.
These strike me as better ideas than spending a first on somebody marginally better/more expensive.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:25 pm
by Godaddycurse
gswhoops wrote:Does SAC have the MLE left? Paul Reed or Precious Achiewa would be solid adds here as well.
They cant fit under lux tax unless rhey send out salary
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:27 pm
by Godaddycurse
I think a midseason trade of craig + smith for huerter and protected 1st would be good
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:28 pm
by SNPA
Godaddycurse wrote:gswhoops wrote:Does SAC have the MLE left? Paul Reed or Precious Achiewa would be solid adds here as well.
They cant fit under apron unless rhey send out salary
I think they were like 7’ish under the tax before the DDR move which based on early reports seems close to wash salary-wise. Kings aren’t paying the tax.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:32 pm
by Godaddycurse
SNPA wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:gswhoops wrote:Does SAC have the MLE left? Paul Reed or Precious Achiewa would be solid adds here as well.
They cant fit under apron unless rhey send out salary
I think they were like 7’ish under the tax before the DDR move which based on early reports seems close to wash salary-wise. Kings aren’t paying the tax.
Sry i meant tax line instead of apron
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:58 pm
by SNPA
Godaddycurse wrote:SNPA wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
They cant fit under apron unless rhey send out salary
I think they were like 7’ish under the tax before the DDR move which based on early reports seems close to wash salary-wise. Kings aren’t paying the tax.
Sry i meant tax line instead of apron
6.6 million gap from Huerter to Kuzma. That scares me a bit.
Grant is out of reach unless Lyles is added.
I like Brandon Clarke but where is he at heath wise? And isn’t he more of a backup? Ideally Sac could get a starter by using the first.
Sabonis/Len
X/Lyles
Murray/DDR
Ellis/Monk
Fox/Carter
Beef Stew would work so great in that spot. Having a bench of DDR/Monk…Kings would be legit.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:07 pm
by Astaluego
SNPA wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:SNPA wrote:I think they were like 7’ish under the tax before the DDR move which based on early reports seems close to wash salary-wise. Kings aren’t paying the tax.
Sry i meant tax line instead of apron
6.6 million gap from Huerter to Kuzma. That scares me a bit.
Grant is out of reach unless Lyles is added.
I like Brandon Clarke but where is he at heath wise? And isn’t he more of a backup? Ideally Sac could get a starter by using the first.
Sabonis/Len
X/Lyles
Murray/DDR
Ellis/Monk
Fox/Carter
Beef Stew would work so great in that spot. Having a bench of DDR/Monk…Kings would be legit.
I would bet that DDR starts...my goal would be DFS...he wins the same as Huerter and that quintet needs a 3D...
Fox/DDR/Murray/DFS/Sabonis
Carter/Monk/Ellis/Lyles/Lenn
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:15 pm
by SNPA
Godaddycurse wrote:I think a midseason trade of craig + smith for huerter and protected 1st would be good
If Monte believes confidently Jalen Smith has another level, and there’s plenty of evidence to make that argument, then I could see this. He is only 24 and has a three year deal. It’s risky though, if he takes another jump the deal could fall apart.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:23 pm
by pillwenney
SNPA wrote:Clear cut. That’s what Sac has on offer. How can it work? Ideally more of a 4/5 but a straight four who can defend works too. This is the final piece to Sac’s offseason if they really want to compete in the West. Trading Barnes made the hole at PF worse.
I don’t think it can be done with Portis because of the second apron.
Beef Stew remains a prime target IMO.
Kuzma but it’s rough defensively.
Kings can’t offer any other salary unless it’s for a big upgrade and they can add Lyles/Ellis/more picks. But that is far fetched. Any deal with Lyles going out undercuts itself somewhat.
Worth noting (correct me if I'm wrong) that I believe we can aggregate McDaniels into a trade before the season (just not right now). That's an extra 4.5mil of fodder.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:31 pm
by SNPA
Astaluego wrote:SNPA wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
Sry i meant tax line instead of apron
6.6 million gap from Huerter to Kuzma. That scares me a bit.
Grant is out of reach unless Lyles is added.
I like Brandon Clarke but where is he at heath wise? And isn’t he more of a backup? Ideally Sac could get a starter by using the first.
Sabonis/Len
X/Lyles
Murray/DDR
Ellis/Monk
Fox/Carter
Beef Stew would work so great in that spot. Having a bench of DDR/Monk…Kings would be legit.
I would bet that DDR starts...my goal would be DFS...he wins the same as Huerter and that quintet needs a 3D...
Fox/DDR/Murray/DFS/Sabonis
Carter/Monk/Ellis/Lyles/Lenn
Agreed. He’ll start. That lineup is what I'd do. But I don’t care much, start Fox/Monk/DDR/Murray/Sabonis…just stagger early. Pull Monk and DDR around 8:50 mark in Q1 & Q3. The team needs defense and length, which is a big reason to move Huerter.
DFS for Huerter straight up, sure if there’s nothing better. He isn’t a player to give a pick for.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:38 pm
by SNPA
pillwenney wrote:SNPA wrote:Clear cut. That’s what Sac has on offer. How can it work? Ideally more of a 4/5 but a straight four who can defend works too. This is the final piece to Sac’s offseason if they really want to compete in the West. Trading Barnes made the hole at PF worse.
I don’t think it can be done with Portis because of the second apron.
Beef Stew remains a prime target IMO.
Kuzma but it’s rough defensively.
Kings can’t offer any other salary unless it’s for a big upgrade and they can add Lyles/Ellis/more picks. But that is far fetched. Any deal with Lyles going out undercuts itself somewhat.
Worth noting (correct me if I'm wrong) that I believe we can aggregate McDaniels into a trade before the season (just not right now). That's an extra 4.5mil of fodder.
Interesting, I thought it ran into the season.
Waiting is risky. Everyone knows there is this hole to fill, is Monte going to go into another season like that? He’ll preach flexibility, but flexibility can’t play PF.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:56 pm
by oldncreaky
Godaddycurse wrote:SNPA wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
They cant fit under apron unless rhey send out salary
I think they were like 7’ish under the tax before the DDR move which based on early reports seems close to wash salary-wise. Kings aren’t paying the tax.
Sry i meant tax line instead of apron
Per
Spotrac SAC is at 163.7M
However, the $163.7M is for 12 active players. They also have a $4.7M hold for their 2024 FRP Devin Carter, and will need to fill the 14th spot, so SAC is right up against the tax line
If SAC wants to spend any money over the minimum on a PF, they are going to have to either move money (in a trade, or a salary dump) or go over the tax.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:00 pm
by Kalamazoo317
Is the pick unprotected? I’d consider Stew for that package if so
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:07 pm
by AaronB
Sac should just sign Chuma. He has really never had a chance and yet I think he would be better than anything that you can get for that package.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:14 pm
by nzahir
Any interest in Rui?
More of a 3/4 than a 4/5 though
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 8:10 pm
by tmorgan
I do think Stew is a perfect fit. I don’t think Detroit is looking to trade him. Could be wrong, tho.
Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF
Posted: Sun Jul 7, 2024 8:12 pm
by pillwenney
SNPA wrote:pillwenney wrote:SNPA wrote:Clear cut. That’s what Sac has on offer. How can it work? Ideally more of a 4/5 but a straight four who can defend works too. This is the final piece to Sac’s offseason if they really want to compete in the West. Trading Barnes made the hole at PF worse.
I don’t think it can be done with Portis because of the second apron.
Beef Stew remains a prime target IMO.
Kuzma but it’s rough defensively.
Kings can’t offer any other salary unless it’s for a big upgrade and they can add Lyles/Ellis/more picks. But that is far fetched. Any deal with Lyles going out undercuts itself somewhat.
Worth noting (correct me if I'm wrong) that I believe we can aggregate McDaniels into a trade before the season (just not right now). That's an extra 4.5mil of fodder.
Interesting, I thought it ran into the season.
Waiting is risky. Everyone knows there is this hole to fill, is Monte going to go into another season like that? He’ll preach flexibility, but flexibility can’t play PF.
Believe the timeline is 90 days before he can be aggregated, which would place it at early October. No reason a deal can't be agreed to in principle before then, and then executed then.