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[Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:17 pm
by bondom34
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Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:24 pm
by hugepatsfan
Freeing up money to re-sign Kennard, I assume?

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:26 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
So this is merely a salary dump no?

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:30 pm
by LightTheBeam
Williams looks like nothing, but I always like when bad teams take chances on young forwards with good size. Who knows, 10% chance he could do something.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:31 pm
by JRoy
Hopefully a fresh start can get his career on track.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:34 pm
by jayjaysee
Nice for Brooklyn.

Memphis has to have something else done, I think it’s more important to find another big… but could just be keeping Luke.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:36 pm
by jazzfan1971
When you need to pay to get rid of your lotto rookie.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:39 pm
by Chuck Everett
hugepatsfan wrote:Freeing up money to re-sign Kennard, I assume?


Correct. However, I think this is a good pickup for Brooklyn. Ziaire has had a tough time in Memphis, but he's also a huge wing. A legit 6'9 and still only 22. In some of the games I've watched him in, even during their disaster of a last season, I could see his enormous potential, if he could ever find some consistency. It is definitely an indictment that GG Jackson and Vince Williams took his minutes, but I also believe those dudes are good and going to keep improving.

He might have been worth taking a flyer on for Sacramento to get another big wing besides Keegan on the roster.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:39 pm
by Chuck Everett
LightTheBeam wrote:Williams looks like nothing, but I always like when bad teams take chances on young forwards with good size. Who knows, 10% chance he could do something.


I feel the same way.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:46 pm
by gswhoops
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:48 pm
by gswhoops
LightTheBeam wrote:Williams looks like nothing, but I always like when bad teams take chances on young forwards with good size. Who knows, 10% chance he could do something.

Agreed. He's 6-9, athletic, and only 22. Worth a low cost look to see if there's something there.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:49 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
gswhoops wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.


I never thought I’ll see the day that teams are trading away top-10 picks still on rookie scales just to be able to pay Luke Kennard at this current stage of his career.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:04 pm
by the_process
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.


I never thought I’ll see the day that teams are trading away top-10 picks still on rookie scales just to be able to pay Luke Kennard at this current stage of his career.


And of all teams Memphis, where you figure the payroll matters more.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:04 pm
by chrbal
jazzfan1971 wrote:When you need to pay to get rid of your lotto rookie.


He’s entering his 4th season, maybe you’re thinking of someone else

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:18 pm
by jazzfan1971
chrbal wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:When you need to pay to get rid of your lotto rookie.


He’s entering his 4th season, maybe you’re thinking of someone else


I meant rookie contract, not rookie.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:29 pm
by esvl
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.


I never thought I’ll see the day that teams are trading away top-10 picks still on rookie scales just to be able to pay Luke Kennard at this current stage of his career.


… unless your roster is full of rookies with higher upside and on better contracts

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:32 pm
by Texas Chuck
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.


I never thought I’ll see the day that teams are trading away top-10 picks still on rookie scales just to be able to pay Luke Kennard at this current stage of his career.


I mean Orlando is good now, so you should see similar things. Good teams value good veteran players over bad young players who have shown no potential to speak of.

This board fetishizes youth, but the Association continually values veterans because veterans help you win.

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:32 pm
by chrbal
jazzfan1971 wrote:
chrbal wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:When you need to pay to get rid of your lotto rookie.


He’s entering his 4th season, maybe you’re thinking of someone else


I meant rookie contract, not rookie.


Oh ok. That point in the lottery, seems like we’re starting to see more situations like this. He was drafted right before James Bouknight, who the Hornets waived last season

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:35 pm
by jayjaysee
Yeah. Memphis is a weird team to call out for their drafting.. done pretty well recently. Memphis should have extended him early and stuck with their mistake. That would’ve been better..

Re: [Wojnarowski]: Ziaire Williams To Brooklyn

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:37 pm
by Colbinii
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:So this is merely a salary dump no?

Yeah essentially. Memphis gets money to (presumably) re-sign Kennard, Brooklyn gets a cheap flier on a former lotto guy who's still young and could potentially become a useful player for them.


I never thought I’ll see the day that teams are trading away top-10 picks still on rookie scales just to be able to pay Luke Kennard at this current stage of his career.


This happens every year. Didn't the Magic release/waive Mario Hezonja?