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[woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:14 pm
by Mavrelous
Apron Shmapron..
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Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:15 pm
by Mavrelous

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:15 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
Any bidders for the team yet?

Kidding aside he’s an excellent role player so it’s good to see Boston lock him up. No idea what they are going to do with the payroll over the next few years.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:27 pm
by Richard4444
Next season, the Celtic"s roster will cost them 225 M (11 players).

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:46 pm
by Godaddycurse
Good deal for Boston

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:00 pm
by daoneandonly
Hauser is better than Josh Green who got 41/3, so this looks fair in comparison

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:36 pm
by brackdan70
A bit higher than I expected, but I guess this probably starts around 10 with raises so fair compared to other contracts.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:39 pm
by brackdan70
Richard4444 wrote:Next season, the Celtic"s roster will cost them 225 M (11 players).

For 25/26 I assume you mean.
That’s when Hauser, Tatum, White extension kick in.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:40 pm
by zimpy27
Good deal for both. I'm not sure Sam looks this good on other teams. Not worth risking a trade because he wanted more money and ending up with very little.

His production for Boston is worth more. So good deal for them too

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:43 pm
by DrModesty
Same region as the Isaiah Joe deal. Seems like good business on all sides.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:50 pm
by GQ Hot Dog
Celtics spending all the money!

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:55 pm
by Snakebites
This all makes sense. They firmly believe they have a championship core for the next few years. And why wouldn't they?

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:57 pm
by mademan
Great deal. Boston won the offseason honestly

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:28 pm
by Richard4444
brackdan70 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:Next season, the Celtic"s roster will cost them 225 M (11 players).

For 25/26 I assume you mean.
That’s when Hauser, Tatum, White extension kick in.


Yes.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:53 pm
by Colbinii
Snakebites wrote:This all makes sense. They firmly believe they have a championship core for the next few years. And why wouldn't they?


Yup their 2022-202X is going to be great.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:56 pm
by gswhoops
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Celtics spending all the money!

In for a penny, in for a pound.

If you're over the second apron anyway, the only way to maintain any kind of roster flexibility is to have large contracts you can trade. So even if this is a slight overpay (which I'm not sure it is), it's worth it.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:14 pm
by hugepatsfan
They're over the 2nd apron last year and this year. Next year will be the all time payroll record year. But repeater penalties don't really kick in 2nd apron wise with the picks being moved back unless they stay in it the year after (26-27).

For that year, as of now, they are at $207.1M in salary for 9 players, which is $22.2M below the projected 2nd apron. The 9 players are:

Holiday / Pritchard
White / Scheierman
Brown / Hauser / Jordan Walsh
Tatum
Queta

They currently own their own 1st in 25 and 26 which if they used them would be probably under $6M in combined salary. They seem likely to sign this year's 2nd round Anton Watson to a 2-way deal and eventually convert him to a 2nd round pick deal which would be another $2M or so. They have a 2nd rounder that projects to be high this year (better of WAS/DET and some other teams) so my guess is that would be one more rookie 2nd rounder for $2M or so. Add this 4 players for $10M and now they'd be about $12.2M below the 2nd apron with 13 players.

The key variable is Porzingis. If he's still productive they won't be ale to afford him without some other moves. But he'll also be a 31 year old FA with an injury history so not sure if they'll even want to keep him at that point. So ideally some of the unnamed rookies I'm forecasting could add some depth at the 5. But my guess s Pritchard and/or Hauser could be moved for front court depth if needed, or at least dumped for room to sign a big man. Ideally Queta develops into at least a decent backup after some flashes last year. And hopefully Scheierman plays well so you at least have some perimeter depth to deal from if you need to re-allocate. If it came down to it and they had to fill the starting C spot with the taxpayers MLE, they'd probably be the most ideal landing spot for that group based on the starting role.

I feel like they're going to be fine dipping under the 2nd apron before the real teeth of the penalties kick in. The only "sacrifice" they have to make to do so is letting Porzingis go. And if that's seen as a sacrifice to let him go 2 years from now, then that implies he was reasonably healthy/productive the next 2 years which means they have a great shot of winning another banner or 2.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:26 pm
by BK_2020
Can't move picks back when you are already drafting at the 30th spot.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:18 pm
by Mamba81p
BK_2020 wrote:Can't move picks back when you are already drafting at the 30th spot.

The way I understand it, the pick that is frozen in 7 years will go to the bottom. A lot can happen in 7 years.

It's almost like trading an unprotected first round 7 years ahead just to stay over the second apron.

Re: [woj] - Hauser extended 45/4

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:35 pm
by giberish
hugepatsfan wrote:They're over the 2nd apron last year and this year. Next year will be the all time payroll record year. But repeater penalties don't really kick in 2nd apron wise with the picks being moved back unless they stay in it the year after (26-27).

For that year, as of now, they are at $207.1M in salary for 9 players, which is $22.2M below the projected 2nd apron. The 9 players are:

Holiday / Pritchard
White / Scheierman
Brown / Hauser / Jordan Walsh
Tatum
Queta


Center certainly looks like the huge issue here. Horford is probably retired (or a cheap, limited depth option) by that point. If Porzingis looks good, resigning him will push the payroll to crazy levels to the point where IMO any owners are having issues.

If Porzingis leaves than that's a significant hole to fill. It might be patched trading Pritchard and/or Hauser and pick(s) but that's still probably a downgrade - while also hurting depth elsewhere in addition to the depth downgrade from Horford.