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BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 4:41 am
by Syko_boB
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Blazers send:
Jerami Grant
Duop Reath
27 NYK 2nd + 28 GSW 2nd
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Pelicans send:
Brandon Ingram
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POR gets 4 years younger & a bit more versatile with BI's vision and ballhandling, at a price they can afford to extend with so many rookie deals locked in
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NOP lock in a more affordable piece in Grant who's range (40% from deep) can open lanes for their main attractions & be a great compliment to their lengthy defensive wings, while Reath can be the real prize & end up having a major role
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 4:43 am
by JRoy
Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 5:00 am
by UnbelievablyRAW
JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Which one has the cap space to take him? Only Houston is projected to have room and from what we've seen this offseason, players are not just automatically getting a pay increase because they want one
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 5:31 am
by winforlose
BI won’t have much of a market until the trade deadline. Injuries may create a demand for a rental with a possibility of more depending on how he plays up till then. At this point the money he wants with the new CBA makes him very difficult to move, much less for value.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 5:40 am
by Norm2953
This would allow Portland to clear a lot of cap space by the summer of 2026 when they
could allow Simons and Ayton to walk but then again, Portland is not a free agent destination
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 6:19 am
by zimpy27
JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Plenty of glamor in Portland
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 6:41 am
by giberish
JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
I'd be shocked if he chose glamor over getting paid.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 7:34 am
by babyjax13
I really like this, outside the box and probably shouldn't be. Portland rolls the dice on someone who could be part of their long-term core. Worst case they are out some seconds and the opportunity cost of the asset Grant could bring in. But, they will also have cap space sooner in that scenario, which likely has a similar value to what Grant would pull in a trade. For New Orleans, it gives them a manageable way to retain talent (I think).
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 9:12 am
by Decipher
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Which one has the cap space to take him? Only Houston is projected to have room and from what we've seen this offseason, players are not just automatically getting a pay increase because they want one
Brooklyn
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 9:31 am
by Dez
JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
You're getting out of paying Grant's contract and taking a flier on Ingram.
There is zero reason for Portland to say no.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:17 am
by BuddyBuckets
Grant doesn't fill a need. Pels pass, would rather Ayton
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:21 am
by Tim Lehrbach
BuddyBuckets wrote:Grant doesn't fill a need. Pels pass, would rather Ayton
Done!
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:23 am
by Tim Lehrbach
If Ingram has value, send him to a third team for something Portland wants, like a pick and filler. I don't think he's the right piece for the Blazers.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 12:31 pm
by R-DAWG
JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Looking at the landscape of the league, are we sure a glamor market max offer for Ingram will exist.
I think the better question for Portland is if Ingram signed to an extension is with more in the trade market than Grant on his current deal.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 12:35 pm
by YayBasketball
Tim Lehrbach wrote:If Ingram has value, send him to a third team for something Portland wants, like a pick and filler. I don't think he's the right piece for the Blazers.
Exactly. One overlooked aspect of the Ingram trade dreams is-- the rebuilding (tanking) teams won't want to trade for him because he will make them better (in theory). Those 10+ more wins he could being could be just enough to keep them out of the top 5 in this loaded Flagg-led draft, but still not good enough to compete with the top of the West.
Blazers, Pistons, Nets, Hornets, Wizards, Bulls, Raptors, Spurs, maybe Jazz-- they won't risk giving up assets for the chance to miss out on Flagg, etc. and to overpay Ingram. Now, mid-season, one of these teams could have a great early start like the Pacers last season. Then want to buy talent and start a winning culture, then trade for Ingram at the deadline to boost their playoff run and long term outlook. I could see the Hornets being that team.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 12:56 pm
by UnbelievablyRAW
Decipher wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:Zero interest in an expiring Ingram that will 100% choose a glamor market.
Which one has the cap space to take him? Only Houston is projected to have room and from what we've seen this offseason, players are not just automatically getting a pay increase because they want one
Brooklyn
Don’t see the point in that if they’re rebuilding
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 1:02 pm
by Decipher
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Decipher wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Which one has the cap space to take him? Only Houston is projected to have room and from what we've seen this offseason, players are not just automatically getting a pay increase because they want one
Brooklyn
Don’t see the point in that if they’re rebuilding
Neither do I but they can do it
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 1:35 pm
by BBallFreak
This is just awkward imo.
Grant doesn't have the value to return Ingram as I see Grant as slightly positive to neutral value, but Portland shouldn't pursue Ingram as he's not a needle mover and the actual value this need to add wouldn't make sense.
I would think both teams should pass.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 2:13 pm
by HartfordWhalers
I have Ingram worth more by enough that I think NO passes. But maybe as a three teamer there is a variation that works.
Re: BI for JERAMI
Posted: Fri Aug 2, 2024 3:29 pm
by kobe_vs_jordan
BBallFreak wrote:This is just awkward imo.
Grant doesn't have the value to return Ingram as I see Grant as slightly positive to neutral value, but Portland shouldn't pursue Ingram as he's not a needle mover and the actual value this need to add wouldn't make sense.
I would think both teams should pass.
Portland says yes on value alone imo . Can always trade him. Ingram younger than grant. Not like grant a better fit for them long team.