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Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:15 am
by Godaddycurse
NOP trade: Ingram, JRE
NOP receive: Claxton, JHS
Brooklyn trade: Claxton
Brooklyn receive: Russell, Hachimura, LAL 2029 unprotected 1st
LAL trade: Russell, Hachimura, JHS, 2029 unprotected 1st
LAL receive: Ingram, JRE
Why for LAL: add a 3rd star to Lebron/AD
Why for NOP: add a starting C for Ingram
Why for Brooklyn: get a future unprotected post AD/Lebron 1st
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:43 am
by Colbinii
I don't think Ingram has this value.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:48 am
by ecuhus1981
I don't want to trade Clax, but give us JHS instead of Rui, and I would at least consider it.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:58 am
by Godaddycurse
Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:00 pm
by JKiddy
The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:05 pm
by Godaddycurse
JKiddy wrote:The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.
Well fortunately Claxton is neither of those things
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:21 pm
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?
At the trade deadline? No.
Look what Siakam was moved for.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:23 pm
by Colbinii
JKiddy wrote:The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.
Claxton is like a Top 75-100 player. How is he ever going to become an All-Star?
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 4:29 pm
by JKiddy
He won't be this until 2025/26 when the cast changes. But, he's considered a Top 60 player now. He cannot achieve more until the team is better. It will take 2 seasons.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:09 pm
by zimpy27
Lakers would hold Rui, rather they move Vando and Vincent..but there is something here with these 3 teams.
Nets get DLo, Vincent, FRPs
Pels get Claxton, Vando
Lakers get Ingram, Sharpe
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:11 pm
by JKiddy
If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:54 am
by brackdan70
Colbinii wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?
At the trade deadline? No.
Look what Siakam was moved for.
Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:02 am
by Karmaloop
JKiddy wrote:If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.
Role players don't fetch unprotected FRPs, let alone multiples of them.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:33 am
by Godaddycurse
Karmaloop wrote:JKiddy wrote:If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.
Role players don't fetch unprotected FRPs, let alone multiples of them.
Nobody told new york that..
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:34 am
by JeffFosters
brackdan70 wrote:Colbinii wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?
At the trade deadline? No.
Look what Siakam was moved for.
Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?
Maybe he thinks Ingram is worth more than that, but I would’ve thought that lakers pick is enough to get it done.
The Ingram fit on LA isn’t too bad, if they’re around they play-in again they’d have to consider it.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:19 pm
by JKiddy
Claxton is not just a "role player" lol
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:22 pm
by mademan
Feel like the Lakers would be better off taking Claxton here.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:16 pm
by Colbinii
brackdan70 wrote:Colbinii wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?
At the trade deadline? No.
Look what Siakam was moved for.
Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?
Not all 1st are created equal.
It was 2 mid-late 1sts in a historically weak draft, a Top 4 protected pick 2.5 years out, and an overpaid role player in Bruce Brown [Salary Filler].
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:23 pm
by Karmaloop
Godaddycurse wrote:Nobody told new york that..
Something about calling Bridges a role player is...odd.
jdiddy wrote:Claxton is not just a "role player" lol
He is. Can he create offense for himself or others? He's a really good player that 99% of the league would like to have on a value contract. But let's not inflate his contract beyond what it actually is. If you want to say that you'd need 3 unprotected FRPs to move him, sure. But let's not pretend like that's what his value is around the league.
Re: Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:27 pm
by brackdan70
Colbinii wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Colbinii wrote:
At the trade deadline? No.
Look what Siakam was moved for.
Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?
Not all 1st are created equal.
It was 2 mid-late 1sts in a historically weak draft, a Top 4 protected pick 2.5 years out, and an overpaid role player in Bruce Brown [Salary Filler].
Right. I don’t think anyone is suggesting unprotected picks or likely lotto picks need to be part of an Ingram package either.
The post you were ready to asked about a single unprotected pick. Doesn’t seem out of line for Ingram.it depends on the team for sure and likely a protected is more realistic