Turning kings into contenders

[Jkam31]

Kings: Deandre Hunter
Hawks: Huerter, McDaniels, future 1st, and in protecting 2025 1st rounder

Why for Kings: Get a three and D guy with great size who is switchable and young. Hunter can come off the bench untill DD contract is up after next season then after can create a frat foward random with Keegan. Kings would now have four elite defensive wings and guards in fox, ellis, Hunter, and Keegan which enables them to matchup up with anyone. Kings defense was top five starting in March with ellis in the lineup and the corpse of Barnes starting and I believ they played mainly playoff teams. On offense Hunter is very ball dominant so he would fit in nicely with the team.

Fox/monk
Ellis/carter
DD/Hunter
Keegan/lyles
Sabonis/len

I’ll take my chances with this team vs any non Boston team (and Boston could have health problems by June). Fox showed he goes to another level in the playoffs you add in Keegan who should improve in his third season

Why for hawks: Get two first round draft picks and a potential for a fourth of the trade was expanded to a three team after rerouting Huerter. I belive huerters value will go up by the deadline and teams needing shooting will call so Atlanta can get assets for him. Trade also clears space and room for there recent draft picks

[BlazersBroncos]

Hunter isn’t worth this. I would say he and Huertwr are about the same value. Difference may be a few SRP. Certainly not 2 FRP.

[giberish]

Feels like a significant overpay for the Kings.

Even when he's healthy (and he's often not) Hunter just isn't that good. Adding a low-end starter/good 3rd forward doesn't really turn the Kings into contenders (though if he can stay healthy he would increase their odds of making the playoffs).

For Atlanta the fit is poor - they'd effectively have to move Daniels to SF with a Bogs/Heuter SG combo making their lineup quite poor on defense. With the pick value they should still do it though.

[Godaddycurse]

I dont think this elevates them out of the play-in/1st round

[JRoy]

Hunter is always hurt. This is an overpay.

[Jkam31]

Hunter isn’t worth this. I would say he and Huertwr are about the same value. Difference may be a few SRP. Certainly not 2 FRP.

Feels like a significant overpay for the Kings.

Even when he's healthy (and he's often not) Hunter just isn't that good. Adding a low-end starter/good 3rd forward doesn't really turn the Kings into contenders (though if he can stay healthy he would increase their odds of making the playoffs).

For Atlanta the fit is poor - they'd effectively have to move Daniels to SF with a Bogs/Heuter SG combo making their lineup quite poor on defense. With the pick value they should still do it though.

Is Hunter a low end starter I thought he was better than this. Hunter balances out the roster which maximizes the team Hunter being a SF/PF clears space for us to give the guards more playing time. Kings need another big wing defender which Hunter is and ones that can shoot don’t come cheap. I was thinking Cam johnson but to me Hunters size pi’s more valuable

I dont think this elevates them out of the play-in/1st round

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

[giberish]

Hunter isn’t worth this. I would say he and Huertwr are about the same value. Difference may be a few SRP. Certainly not 2 FRP.

Feels like a significant overpay for the Kings.

Even when he's healthy (and he's often not) Hunter just isn't that good. Adding a low-end starter/good 3rd forward doesn't really turn the Kings into contenders (though if he can stay healthy he would increase their odds of making the playoffs).

For Atlanta the fit is poor - they'd effectively have to move Daniels to SF with a Bogs/Heuter SG combo making their lineup quite poor on defense. With the pick value they should still do it though.

Is Hunter a low end starter I thought he was better than this. Hunter balances out the roster which maximizes the team Hunter being a SF/PF clears space for us to give the guards more playing time. Kings need another big wing defender which Hunter is and ones that can shoot don’t come cheap. I was thinking Cam johnson but to me Hunters size pi’s more valuable

The idea of Hunter has always been better than the reality of Hunter. He's not bad, but he's not really good either. When healthy (and that's been a big if for him) he fills a hole but isn't a positive difference maker.

[Godaddycurse]

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

[zimpy27]

I have Huerter as more valuable than Hunter, so this is confusing

[mcfly1204]

May I interest you in some magic beans?

[OxAndFox]

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

[Godaddycurse]

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

Derozan havent exactly been known for playoff success so i stand by my original prediction of play-in/1st rd exit.
Maybe 2nd round If they have HCA but i don't think they will finish above denver/okc/minny/dallas..

[OxAndFox]

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

Derozan havent exactly been known for playoff success so i stand by my original prediction of play-in/1st rd exit.
Maybe 2nd round If they have HCA but i don't think they will finish above denver/okc/minny/dallas..

I think with the Kings a wide range of predictions is completely reasonable.
TBH I have huge expectations of this group. If they don't make the WCF I would be shocked if healthy. OKC is the only team I see as a lock for a top 2 spot. The Kings I can see anywhere from 2-8 with the most likely on the higher end. There is plenty of room on the hype bandwagon though so you're welcome to get on board.
Minny is close with OKC and I love their squad TBH. Hard to see them falling off, but Sac had a 2-1 record against them last season so I would expect close battles again, same with OKC at 2-2. They match up relatively well with those teams, unlike those pesky Pelicans.
Was it a sugar hit after the TDL for Dallas?
Denver isn't close to what they were last year and we will see just how much KCP meant to them. They do have the best player in the game though.
Phoenix will obviously be good and will be in that group, as will Memphis and if NOP get a 5 they will be too.
I see that anything can happen between Sac, Mem, NOP, Dal, Den, Minn, Pho and should be 2-8 drawings.
I also won't be surprised if Hou is fighting for a place along with the Spurs.

Don't worry about DDR in the POs. He needs to help get the team there mainly. He will help with the sleepy games the Kings lose like Detroit, Charlotte, Portland.

[Jkam31]

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

Keegan is going into his third year the third year leap is coming last year he went from an average defender to an elite defender so he has shown he can get better as he goes. Keegan ain’t getting traded for anything short of a top 5 player

[Jkam31]

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

Derozan havent exactly been known for playoff success so i stand by my original prediction of play-in/1st rd exit.
Maybe 2nd round If they have HCA but i don't think they will finish above denver/okc/minny/dallas..

I think with the Kings a wide range of predictions is completely reasonable.
TBH I have huge expectations of this group. If they don't make the WCF I would be shocked if healthy. OKC is the only team I see as a lock for a top 2 spot. The Kings I can see anywhere from 2-8 with the most likely on the higher end. There is plenty of room on the hype bandwagon though so you're welcome to get on board.
Minny is close with OKC and I love their squad TBH. Hard to see them falling off, but Sac had a 2-1 record against them last season so I would expect close battles again, same with OKC at 2-2. They match up relatively well with those teams, unlike those pesky Pelicans.
Was it a sugar hit after the TDL for Dallas?
Denver isn't close to what they were last year and we will see just how much KCP meant to them. They do have the best player in the game though.
Phoenix will obviously be good and will be in that group, as will Memphis and if NOP get a 5 they will be too.
I see that anything can happen between Sac, Mem, NOP, Dal, Den, Minn, Pho and should be 2-8 drawings.
I also won't be surprised if Hou is fighting for a place along with the Spurs.

Don't worry about DDR in the POs. He needs to help get the team there mainly. He will help with the sleepy games the Kings lose like Detroit, Charlotte, Portland.

Also he won’t be reloaded on as the best player in the playoffs when we have fox and Sabonis

[King Baller]

Lmao we won 46+ games two years in a row last year we were on pace to be the sixth seed with fox playing hurt for two months than we lost our starting SG and backup SG for the season. How do you expect a team to keep pace in the Wild West down the starter and backup at the same position. Now we added a 20/5/5 all star for our worst starter and you’re saying play in first round absolutely ridiculous

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

I think he is referring to DeMar Derozan. But I have only skimmed the posts.

[SNPA]

BEEF STEW!!!!!

[Mavrelous]

Remove the 1st, reduce the protection on existinh pick to top 4.
It's a decent gamble for the Kings, Hawks have 2 young 6'8-6'9 forwards and don't need Hunter, and they are short on shooting.

[zimpy27]

Kings road to being contenders starts with turning Sabonis in to a 2-way big. That's the harsh truth.


Exception would be trading for JI and he remains healthy for 4-5 seasons

[OxAndFox]

When did Hunter become an all star or ever averaged 20/5/5?
Are you confusing him with Ingram?

Barnes for DDR.

This trade doesn't advance the Kings further IMO. If the Kings want to truly become a contender it's going to be a Keegan/draft picks for superstar type deal.

Keegan is going into his third year the third year leap is coming last year he went from an average defender to an elite defender so he has shown he can get better as he goes. Keegan ain’t getting traded for anything short of a top 5 player

Agreed. That's why I mentioned superstar. It wouldn't be for a middle of the road star. He is there himself if he gets more reps.