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LAL trades: Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Dalton Knecht, 2029 LAL 1st (1-10 protected, otherwise 2030 & 2031 2nds)
in: Julius Randle
Lakers get someone who can relieve some of the playmaking and scoring pressure from LeBron, they have a legit third option after this + it allows D'Lo to run in his best role as someone scoring off-ball and providing secondary/tertiary playmaking.

MIN trades: Julius Randle, Josh Minott, 2025 UTA 2nd, 2026 IND/MIA/SAS 2nd (least favorable)
in: Rui Hachimura, Dorian Finney-Smith, Dalton Knecht
Wolves flip Randle for depth and shooting.

BRK trades: Dorian Finney-Smith
in: Gabe Vincent, Josh Minott, 2029 LAL 1st (1-10 protected, otherwise 2030 & 2031 2nds), 2025 UTA 2nd, 2026 IND/MIA/SAS 2nd (least favorable)
Nets get a chance at a first round pick for DFS + some 2nds.

Feels like NAW could also go to LAL and have a valuable role there.

The Wolves were using KAT as C2. Without KAT, Randle is C2 and Garza is C3. Garza is not someone we want to use in the rotation. Your suggestion fails because we have 16 players (need to cut one) and no backup C.

winforlose wrote:The Wolves were using KAT as C2. Without KAT, Randle is C2 and Garza is C3. Garza is not someone we want to use in the rotation. Your suggestion fails because we have 16 players (need to cut one) and no backup C.

Will Reid not play center minutes? The roster size issue can be easily addressed by sending out some of the minimum guys and/or NAW + one of the minimum guys, etc.

babyjax13 wrote:

winforlose wrote:The Wolves were using KAT as C2. Without KAT, Randle is C2 and Garza is C3. Garza is not someone we want to use in the rotation. Your suggestion fails because we have 16 players (need to cut one) and no backup C.

Will Reid not play center minutes? The roster size issue can be easily addressed by sending out some of the minimum guys and/or NAW + one of the minimum guys, etc.

Naz dropped a ton of weight and plays PF with some SF when needed. I doubt we want him at C at all.

winforlose wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

winforlose wrote:The Wolves were using KAT as C2. Without KAT, Randle is C2 and Garza is C3. Garza is not someone we want to use in the rotation. Your suggestion fails because we have 16 players (need to cut one) and no backup C.

Will Reid not play center minutes? The roster size issue can be easily addressed by sending out some of the minimum guys and/or NAW + one of the minimum guys, etc.

Naz dropped a ton of weight and plays PF with some SF when needed. I doubt we want him at C at all.

Yes, and this is another thing that the national media doesn’t convey. Naz is a big wing.

It might be helpful to list the 19 Timberwolves players by their primary position, to demonstrate where they have holes.

Mike Conley Rob Dillingham (Daishen Nix)
Anthony Edwards Donte DiVincenzo Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Jaylen Clark)
Jaden McDaniels Joe Ingles. Keita Bates-Diop Josh Minott. Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle Naz Reid Leonard Miller PJ Dozier
Rudy Gobert Luka Garza (Jesse Edwards)

MIN’s got wings. They need a back up center and a vet PG.

shrink wrote:

winforlose wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:Will Reid not play center minutes? The roster size issue can be easily addressed by sending out some of the minimum guys and/or NAW + one of the minimum guys, etc.

Naz dropped a ton of weight and plays PF with some SF when needed. I doubt we want him at C at all.

Yes, and this is another thing that the national media doesn’t convey. Naz is a big wing.

It might be helpful to list the 19 Timberwolves players by their primary position, to demonstrate where they have holes.

Mike Conley Rob Dillingham (Daishen Nix)
Anthony Edwards Donte DiVincenzo Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Jaylen Clark)
Jaden McDaniels Joe Ingles. Keita Bates-Diop Josh Minott. Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle Naz Reid Leonard Miller PJ Dozier
Rudy Gobert Luka Garza (Jesse Edwards)

MIN’s got wings. They need a back up center and a vet PG.

DDV is kinda the backup PG. NAW was filling in when Conley was out last year. Plus Dilly and Jingles for emergencies (not to mention Nix,) I think we are good at PG. A solid backup C is priority 1 for NAW.

No interest in Randle

Going to clog up space and is a poor defender

shrink wrote:

winforlose wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:Will Reid not play center minutes? The roster size issue can be easily addressed by sending out some of the minimum guys and/or NAW + one of the minimum guys, etc.

Naz dropped a ton of weight and plays PF with some SF when needed. I doubt we want him at C at all.

Yes, and this is another thing that the national media doesn’t convey. Naz is a big wing.

It might be helpful to list the 19 Timberwolves players by their primary position, to demonstrate where they have holes.

Mike Conley Rob Dillingham (Daishen Nix)
Anthony Edwards Donte DiVincenzo Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Jaylen Clark)
Jaden McDaniels Joe Ingles. Keita Bates-Diop Josh Minott. Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle Naz Reid Leonard Miller PJ Dozier
Rudy Gobert Luka Garza (Jesse Edwards)

MIN’s got wings. They need a back up center and a vet PG.

Got to trade Miller and Minott, they aren't getting playing time stuck back there and they may still have positive value.

zimpy27 wrote:

shrink wrote:

winforlose wrote:
Naz dropped a ton of weight and plays PF with some SF when needed. I doubt we want him at C at all.

Yes, and this is another thing that the national media doesn’t convey. Naz is a big wing.

It might be helpful to list the 19 Timberwolves players by their primary position, to demonstrate where they have holes.

Mike Conley Rob Dillingham (Daishen Nix)
Anthony Edwards Donte DiVincenzo Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Jaylen Clark)
Jaden McDaniels Joe Ingles. Keita Bates-Diop Josh Minott. Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle Naz Reid Leonard Miller PJ Dozier
Rudy Gobert Luka Garza (Jesse Edwards)

MIN’s got wings. They need a back up center and a vet PG.

Got to trade Miller and Minott, they aren't getting playing time stuck back there and they may still have positive value.

Miller is going into his second season, Minott his 3rd. Worst case we don’t trade either, with bird rights I don’t see teams wanting to pay to take either. They represent interesting cheap talent with explorable upside should injuries ever press them into service. Neither should be given away. The players to give away are Garza and Dozier. Depending on Naz’s year and how much Rudy restructures for, we may have enough to keep NAW and maintain one of the deepest 1-3 in the NBA.

PG: Dilly/DDV (after Mike retires.)
SG: Ant/NAW
SF: MCD/TSJ/Minott

With TSJ also being available at the SG and Ant at SF as needed. The issue is we have only Garza behind Rudy, and Naz should start over Randle, but Randle’s ego won’t like that. Naz plays better when he is given 30+ minutes per game. That might be why they traded KAT (besides money.) Miller might become the backup 5 at some point, but I think he is a year away at least. He also could play backup 4 behind Naz and then if you get a backup C you have a very strong 10 deep rotation.

I actually think that Garza is okay for his role

He’s a 3rd string center who costs nothing and plays limited minutes

Know that he lacks athleticism but he tries hard and has improved a lot

Can’t imagine that he’s got much trade value anyway

winforlose wrote:

zimpy27 wrote:

shrink wrote:Yes, and this is another thing that the national media doesn’t convey. Naz is a big wing.

It might be helpful to list the 19 Timberwolves players by their primary position, to demonstrate where they have holes.

Mike Conley Rob Dillingham (Daishen Nix)
Anthony Edwards Donte DiVincenzo Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Jaylen Clark)
Jaden McDaniels Joe Ingles. Keita Bates-Diop Josh Minott. Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle Naz Reid Leonard Miller PJ Dozier
Rudy Gobert Luka Garza (Jesse Edwards)

MIN’s got wings. They need a back up center and a vet PG.

Got to trade Miller and Minott, they aren't getting playing time stuck back there and they may still have positive value.

Miller is going into his second season, Minott his 3rd. Worst case we don’t trade either, with bird rights I don’t see teams wanting to pay to take either. They represent interesting cheap talent with explorable upside should injuries ever press them into service. Neither should be given away. The players to give away are Garza and Dozier. Depending on Naz’s year and how much Rudy restructures for, we may have enough to keep NAW and maintain one of the deepest 1-3 in the NBA.

PG: Dilly/DDV (after Mike retires.)
SG: Ant/NAW
SF: MCD/TSJ/Minott

With TSJ also being available at the SG and Ant at SF as needed. The issue is we have only Garza behind Rudy, and Naz should start over Randle, but Randle’s ego won’t like that. Naz plays better when he is given 30+ minutes per game. That might be why they traded KAT (besides money.) Miller might become the backup 5 at some point, but I think he is a year away at least. He also could play backup 4 behind Naz and then if you get a backup C you have a very strong 10 deep rotation.

I think both could be interesting to other teams actually. An SRP to take a chance.

Decipher wrote:I actually think that Garza is okay for his role

He’s a 3rd string center who costs nothing and plays limited minutes

Know that he lacks athleticism but he tries hard and has improved a lot

Can’t imagine that he’s got much trade value anyway

I agree with all of this, plus he’s fantastic off the court - the Wolves just need to find a 2nd string center in front of him. Gobert is 32, and while I expect him to age well with his dedicated off-court regimen, and injury right now would be crippling.

Interestingly, both Naz and Garza have transformed their bodies into being big wings, and would struggle to bang with centers. Garza still has all the post moves from the last 50 years of the NBA, ingrained in him as a child by his father from the recordings.

zimpy27 wrote:

winforlose wrote:

zimpy27 wrote:
Got to trade Miller and Minott, they aren't getting playing time stuck back there and they may still have positive value.

Miller is going into his second season, Minott his 3rd. Worst case we don’t trade either, with bird rights I don’t see teams wanting to pay to take either. They represent interesting cheap talent with explorable upside should injuries ever press them into service. Neither should be given away. The players to give away are Garza and Dozier. Depending on Naz’s year and how much Rudy restructures for, we may have enough to keep NAW and maintain one of the deepest 1-3 in the NBA.

PG: Dilly/DDV (after Mike retires.)
SG: Ant/NAW
SF: MCD/TSJ/Minott

With TSJ also being available at the SG and Ant at SF as needed. The issue is we have only Garza behind Rudy, and Naz should start over Randle, but Randle’s ego won’t like that. Naz plays better when he is given 30+ minutes per game. That might be why they traded KAT (besides money.) Miller might become the backup 5 at some point, but I think he is a year away at least. He also could play backup 4 behind Naz and then if you get a backup C you have a very strong 10 deep rotation.

I think both could be interesting to other teams actually. An SRP to take a chance.

I'd have no problems moving on from Minot, I think enough others have passed him on the depth chart (or will soon) that if someone wanted him for a 2nd -- even a late one -- I'd do it. Not Miller though. Only 1 year in and still seems like over the long-haul he isn't yet blocked from a bench/end of rotation spot. Plus they gave up 2 2nd last year to move up for him. Dumping him for 1 a year later would be pretty poor resource management. And coming from an organization that was already short on them to begin with I have to imagine they were playing more of a long game with his potential anyways.

I don't think the Wolves are looking to break Randle into multiple lesser pieces. Minnesota is already very deep with a bench that includes rotation vets DiVincenzo, NAW, Naz, and Ingles. On top of that there are a bunch of young guys that are going to be fighting for playing time in Dillingham, Shannon, Minott, and Miller. I could see Randle getting moved, but it would likely be for a single better fitting player from the same tier of talent.

schaffy wrote:

zimpy27 wrote:I think both could be interesting to other teams actually. An SRP to take a chance.

I'd have no problems moving on from Minot, I think enough others have passed him on the depth chart (or will soon) that if someone wanted him for a 2nd -- even a late one -- I'd do it.

I agree.

Minott is an ultra-athletic kid that showed in his first Summer League that he can cause chaos. The Wolves liked him, but as they were suddenly becoming a contending team, they never had any minutes for him. He spent his first year in the G-League where he said he learned every defensive set Chris Finch wanted him to know. Last year MIN was competing for the #1 spot on the west most of the year, so they gave minutes to vets like Kyle Anderson over Minott.

Minott has never said anything publicly, but there are rumors that he feels he’s done everything the team has asked of him, and now he wants his shot. More power to him for having that attitude, but MIN simply doesn’t have the playing time for him, especially after adding TJ Shannon. I agree with zimpy he could be an interesting pick up for several teams, and the Wolves should be willing to make a trade, if anything to just be professional and help a player further his career.

This offer does nothing for me

wolves_89 wrote:I don't think the Wolves are looking to break Randle into multiple lesser pieces. Minnesota is already very deep with a bench that includes rotation vets DiVincenzo, NAW, Naz, and Ingles. On top of that there are a bunch of young guys that are going to be fighting for playing time in Dillingham, Shannon, Minott, and Miller. I could see Randle getting moved, but it would likely be for a single better fitting player from the same tier of talent.

I think the issue is that that kind of trade is likely unavailable. I could be wrong, but just looking within that "tier"...I think Randle is the most difficult to build around. That said, he is impactful if you can.

Maybe cut out Brooklyn tbh and switch Vincent (wolves have no need for him) for Vando.

So who is Minny's second best offensive player after this? It's ANT then a BIG drop off.