Knicks get missing piece ! Det,chi, Por!

scottyg · Post #1 » by **scottyg** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:46 pm

Knicks get -
- Isiah Stewert

Why? They get perfect compliment to Kat, toughness and 3 pt shooting and rebounding, can play the 4 and 5 and I'm a bulls fan and think he's perfect for the knicks as hard as that is to say!

Bulls get-
- Mitchell Robinson

Why? Get a future starting center and keep the tank goin

Pistons get -
- Jermey Grant
- Pic back from NY

Why?? Get a young shooter to go with Cade

Blazers get -
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

scottyg · Post #2 » by **scottyg** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:47 pm

scottyg wrote:Knicks get -
- Isiah Stewert

Why? They get perfect compliment to Kat, toughness and 3 pt shooting and rebounding, can play the 4 and 5 and I'm a bulls fan and think he's perfect for the knicks as hard as that is to say!

Bulls get-
- Mitchell Robinson

Why? Get a future starting center and keep the tank goin

Pistons get -
- Jermey Grant
- Pic back from NY

Why?? Get a young shooter to go with Cade

Blazers get -
- Chris Duarte
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

JRoy · Post #3 » by **JRoy** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:53 pm

scottyg wrote:Knicks get -
- Isiah Stewert

Why? They get perfect compliment to Kat, toughness and 3 pt shooting and rebounding, can play the 4 and 5 and I'm a bulls fan and think he's perfect for the knicks as hard as that is to say!

Bulls get-
- Mitchell Robinson

Why? Get a future starting center and keep the tank goin

Pistons get -
- Jermey Grant
- Pic back from NY

Why?? Get a young shooter to go with Cade

Blazers get -
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

No thank you from POR.

A smaller deal with CHI to get that FRP back (even though it will probably not be a FRP) would be a much better deal than this.

psman2 · Post #4 » by **psman2** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:54 pm

You should really do an in/out for each team to make this easier to read.

I don't see Chicago giving up any assets to get MRob.

I don't see any young shooter going to Det.

JRoy · Post #5 » by **JRoy** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:03 pm

psman2 wrote:You should really do an in/out for each team to make this easier to read.

I don't see Chicago giving up any assets to get MRob.

I don't see any young shooter going to Det.

Jerami Grant is younger than Ulysses Grant.

JayTWill · Post #6 » by **JayTWill** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:28 pm

scottyg wrote:Knicks get -
- Isiah Stewert

Why? They get perfect compliment to Kat, toughness and 3 pt shooting and rebounding, can play the 4 and 5 and I'm a bulls fan and think he's perfect for the knicks as hard as that is to say!

Bulls get-
- Mitchell Robinson

Why? Get a future starting center and keep the tank goin

Pistons get -
- Jermey Grant
- Pic back from NY

Why?? Get a young shooter to go with Cade

Blazers get -
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

No comment on the value of the trade but the Detroit pick was already sent out in the KAT deal.

Rockazoids · Post #7 » by **Rockazoids** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:56 pm

Missing piece of what for NY?
Robinson, Kolek, and picks for Stewart that a big hell no. People need to stop looking at Kolek as just some throw in.
NY traded up for him for a reason.

ChettheJet · Post #8 » by **ChettheJet** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:36 pm

The Bulls are in.

Dalen Terry plays with energy and hustle, handles the ball well enough. What he isn't is much of is a shooter, still kind of over playing on defense. He's had plenty of playing time and off seasons to correct his shortcomings.

Jevon Carter is a 6-1 small shooting guard, he can handle the ball but he's not much of a playmaker.

That PORT pick is only worth anything to PORT it allows them to figure future picks in trades which they can't now because it's owed.

Robinson I believe is injured which is fine for the Bulls who still have designs on trading Vucevic. The most likely time he could be dealt would be at the deadline when he would have the rest of this year and be an expiring the next. Thus with what the Bulls are giving up they can wait for Robinson to recover fully with Vucevic still around.

tester551 · Post #9 » by **tester551** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:19 am

scottyg wrote:Knicks get -
- Isiah Stewert

Why? They get perfect compliment to Kat, toughness and 3 pt shooting and rebounding, can play the 4 and 5 and I'm a bulls fan and think he's perfect for the knicks as hard as that is to say!

Bulls get-
- Mitchell Robinson

Why? Get a future starting center and keep the tank goin

Pistons get -
- Jermey Grant
- Pic back from NY

Why?? Get a young shooter to go with Cade

Blazers get -
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

Let's break this down a bit:

Knicks
Mitchell Robinson
Tyler Kolek
Detroit 1st
2nd round pick

for
- Isiah Stewart

IMO, this feels like a massive overpay. I have Stewart & Robinson about equal value. I'm not sure either one would pull a 1st round pick. Kolek is a very intriguing player, and doubt Knicks just throw him in.

Bulls
Dylan Terry
Javon Carter
Portland 1st

for
- Mitchell Robinson

This feels like a slight overpay - but I can see it happening. Maybe if Robinson were not injured...
I still think Terry has potential, but he's really struggled thus far.

Pistons
Isiah Stewart
Tim Hardaway Jr
2nds

for
- Jerami Grant
- Pic back from NY

Pistons get a great deal here. They arguably get the best player in the trade (Grant) AND their first back. Not sure how they pull this robbery off here.

Portland
Jerami Grant

for
- Dylan Terry
- Javon Carter
- Tyler Kolek
- Tim Hardaway Jr
- 1st rd pic back via chi
- 3 2nd rd pics Via NY and Det

This has a lot of issues from a roster constructability side. Considering Portland's 1st will most likely turn into a pair of 2nds - I don't see how this is something Blazers would consider.

tester551 · Post #10 » by **tester551** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:35 am

ChettheJet wrote:The Bulls are in.

Dalen Terry plays with energy and hustle, handles the ball well enough. What he isn't is much of is a shooter, still kind of over playing on defense. He's had plenty of playing time and off seasons to correct his shortcomings.

Jevon Carter is a 6-1 small shooting guard, he can handle the ball but he's not much of a playmaker.

That PORT pick is only worth anything to PORT it allows them to figure future picks in trades which they can't now because it's owed.

Robinson I believe is injured which is fine for the Bulls who still have designs on trading Vucevic. The most likely time he could be dealt would be at the deadline when he would have the rest of this year and be an expiring the next. Thus with what the Bulls are giving up they can wait for Robinson to recover fully with Vucevic still around.

If you are willing to take this trade for Robinson, how about something smaller between Portland & Chicago....

Williams
Walker

for

Carter
Terry
Portland's pick returned

Myth · Post #11 » by **Myth** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:54 am

Blazers would have to waive several players just to make this legal, and that is before we break down that is is not the type of return they should be seeking for Grant (filler and our pick back that may just be a 2nd rounder anyway). This is not close. No wonder the OP avoided giving a justification for the Blazers lol.