Schroder offers

[Decipher]

Assuming that the Nets don’t want to extend him

Nets would be after pick(s) and young talent

Expirings are pointless as Dennis is one himself

[Colbinii]

Expiring(s) aren't pointless. In fact, they would hold value in the fact they allow Brooklyn to be both more aggressive in the off-season and could likely soak up more value in the off-season for a multitude of reasons--notably as there is potential for more trades in the off-season and bigger [bigger names, better players and higher-end assets] in trades. That said, I am partial to the idea of "your salary matching has more years which means we need more value", but given Shroeder's salary amount, it is likely capped at ~2 2nds for the cap savings each year.

The Nets have a handful of desirable veterans in Schroder, Johnson and Dorian Finney-Smith, but let's focus on Schroder for the thread.

The Teams I see potentially interested in Shroder currently:

Denver
Miami
Milwaukee
Minnesota
New Orleans
San Antonio

The problem with most of these teams is the matching salary or the trade requires a larger 3-team move, where Schroder is an incoming salary filling a role in a playoff rotation.

Denver: They have to do a 4-for-1 which isn't feasible
Miami: Moves one of Herro/Rozier
Milwaukee: Moves Lillard
Minnesota: 2nd Apron and can't aggregate
New Orleans: Murray 3-team deal
San Antonio: Collins+ ?

At the end of the day, there just isn't much here for Brooklyn. Team's don't want low-end starting PG's who lack an elite skill.

[babyjax13]

Clippers for PJ Tucker, filler, and a 2nd?

[wemby]

Schroder is 31, on an expiring deal, and has had a very up and down career, building himself up in bad teams and failing to deliver when a better team trades for / signs him. I don't think you're going to get much more than matching salary + 2/3 SRPs. But he should be useful for some team.

[Thaddy]

No one wants him look at what Toronto got last season

[sortpar]

Schroder is 31, on an expiring deal, and has had a very up and down career, building himself up in bad teams and failing to deliver when a better team trades for / signs him. I don't think you're going to get much more than matching salary + 2/3 SRPs. But he should be useful for some team.

Schroder in a contact year, is the antithesis of what the Nets need to tank for a high draft pick. Schroder's contribution to Net wins could take the Nets from a possible 3rd pick to an 8th pick in the 2025 draft.

[Scoot McGroot]

Assuming that the Nets don’t want to extend him

The Nets can't legally extend him even if they wanted to. The contract he originally signed there was only for 2 years, and contracts of less than 3 years cannot be extended.

Nets would be after pick(s) and young talent

I'm sure they would. But Dennis is good for a hot streak every year, and yet, he is what he is. Someone may need a solid 2nd PG/3rd guard and trade an expiring and 2nds or lesser valued young guy, but he's not all of a sudden playing his way into solid young value/1st round pick type value.

Expirings are pointless as Dennis is one himself

If you're willing to take back a longer contract, you probably would get better pick/youth value in return.

[wegotthabeet]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

[wemby]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Cole Anthony is a negative contract, how does it work for the Nets?

[Decipher]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Cole Anthony is a negative contract, how does it work for the Nets?

Plus we already have a much better version in Thomas

[wegotthabeet]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Cole Anthony is a negative contract, how does it work for the Nets?

yeah fair enough. what's making up the value? a couple of 2nds?

[Skybox]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

[wemby]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Cole Anthony is a negative contract, how does it work for the Nets?

yeah fair enough. what's making up the value? a couple of 2nds?

No, because they're taking an extra year worth of a negative contract. That's a FRP return worthy. Or else just change Cole Anthony for an expiring and 2/3 SRPs (depending on how good they are).

[wegotthabeet]

Cole Anthony is a negative contract, how does it work for the Nets?

yeah fair enough. what's making up the value? a couple of 2nds?

No, because they're taking an extra year worth of a negative contract. That's a FRP return worthy. Or else just change Cole Anthony for an expiring and 2/3 SRPs (depending on how good they are).

that's not realistic unfortunately. no way he pulls a 1st.

[wegotthabeet]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

I wouldn't use a first to swap them.

[orlando_joe]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

i do not see magic giving a first in any way for him come on ..black will get the yr before any move is made..and who knows if that denver pick is...only wins are against lottery teams in overtime add one injury to that team and pick looks way to good

[Skybox]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

I wouldn't use a first to swap them.

I'd rather not, but I'd be willing to...DEN pick (this week notwithstanding) should be a very late one and last thing ORL needs is more kids. Definitely a case of "not all firsts are the same", but of course I'd happily sub in a few srps (which I consider nearly worthless).
Cole's got a very good chance of being better than Schroder in their new spots, but I understand BRK wants assets and Cole alone doesn't really do it for BRK, especially with Schroder expiring.

[wemby]

yeah fair enough. what's making up the value? a couple of 2nds?

No, because they're taking an extra year worth of a negative contract. That's a FRP return worthy. Or else just change Cole Anthony for an expiring and 2/3 SRPs (depending on how good they are).

that's not realistic unfortunately. no way he pulls a 1st.

That's not a first for Schroder, it's a first for Schroder PLUS dumping off a year of Cole Anthony's contract. Not saying a good first, but one in the 20s sounds about fair. And yes, despite what some Magic fans may say, undersized and inefficient shooting guards aren't a hot commodity.

[hugepatsfan]

Schröder to ORL for C. Anthony probably works for both teams.

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

Wanting defensive length isn't a strategy that's exactly unique to ORL. Everyone wants that. He's as negative everywhere else as he is in ORL.

[wegotthabeet]

Some of us on ORL board having the same conversation (I'll ignore the other post-he's certainly not a negative value - except maybe in ORL, where he doesn't fit the defensive length strategy). I'd add the 2025 DEN frp. I also think Cole has a lot to offer. Best teammate and great personality as well as upside that I don't think he's had the opportunity to showcase since very early in his career. Exceptional rebounder for a guard too.

I don't think Schroder is great and he's not known to be a warm & fuzzy locker room guy, but...
-ORL has the Germany connection with the Wagners and, to some extent, rookie da Silva
-ORL has a need for a vet floor leader who can score ...although not likely in the starting lineup.
-He's expiring, so if it doesn't work out, no problem. He's 31 and bouncing around. Maybe he'd see ORL as a developing, winning environment, no state tax, weather, solid role with familiar players who were also raised to "play the right way"...maybe he'd look at the opportunity to finish out his career in a stable setting instead of chasing a new deal every year.

I wouldn't use a first to swap them.

I'd rather not, but I'd be willing to...DEN pick (this week notwithstanding) should be a very late one and last thing ORL needs is more kids. Definitely a case of "not all firsts are the same", but of course I'd happily sub in a few srps (which I consider nearly worthless).
Cole's got a very good chance of being better than Schroder in their new spots, but I understand BRK wants assets and Cole alone doesn't really do it for BRK, especially with Schroder expiring.

That’s why a couple of 2nds should get it done.