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Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 2:33 am
by rambo_ortega
Bucks Get:
Towns
OG
Towns/Portis/OG/Middleton/Dame
Probably the best value that the Bucks could get and still contend with Dame. This is still a very good team.
Knicks Get:
Giannis
Lopez
Connaughton
In my opinion, the Knicks are better with more defense than offense, so replacing KAT's offense with the defense of Giannis will make them a championship contender. They also keep the Nova boys
Lopez/Giannis/Bridges/Hart/Brunson
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 2:54 am
by SNPA
Is that post-trade Bucks team a contender, as the OP implies?
I don’t see it.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 3:38 am
by Cappy_Smurf
Pissed of Bucks fans incoming.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 4:13 am
by shrink
KAT makes more than Giannis with a slightly newer supermax. MIL is over the first apron, and can’t take back more salary than it sends out. Since they can’t aggregate salary either, no Giannis trade can be for a player making more money than he does.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 5:08 am
by Jkam31
Cappy_Smurf wrote:Pissed of Bucks fans incoming.
I’m a kings fan and I’m pissed
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 5:12 am
by meekrab
No point trying to trade Giannis and still contend, since they aren't contending now anyway and the new CBA prevents most of the trades that would make it work.
Best hope is to find a GM who will give you assets for Dame first and then trade Giannis later, since that first GM will get fired and never work in basketball again so it's not like you're burning any bridges.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 2:35 pm
by JayMKE
You should be prosecuted for even posting this.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 10:25 pm
by Texas Chuck
JayMKE wrote:You should be prosecuted for even posting this.
I don't want to keep asking you to stop doing this. Seems easy for you to just avoid Giannis threads. I get you hate the idea of it. I would too. Heck, I do too as a non-Bucks fans.
But that doesn't make coming into every thread and attacking other posters cool. So kindly stop.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 10:40 pm
by HornetJail
this is several 1sts apart.
I'm impressed the Bucks fans showed restraint calling only for prosecution
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Mon Nov 4, 2024 11:21 pm
by gswhoops
shrink wrote:KAT makes more than Giannis with a slightly newer supermax. MIL is over the first apron, and can’t take back more salary than it sends out. Since they can’t aggregate salary either, no Giannis trade can be for a player making more money than he does.
/thread
A Giannis for KAT trade is literally not possible under the CBA unless Milwaukee figures out a way to shed about $20 million in salary as part of the deal.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 5, 2024 11:25 am
by Apz
Would probably have to be a 3 team deal atleast that includes nola sending bucks picks back. Font have cap sheets and salaries available atm, but simething like brunson+kat to nola, picks to bucks, giannis to NY
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 5, 2024 3:19 pm
by wemby
Nowhere near value wise. I don't think there's a Knicks package that makes sense actually.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:16 pm
by brackdan70
Needs a bunch of unprotected picks going to Milwaukee. I think they used all those up on Bridges though right?
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Thu Nov 7, 2024 2:19 pm
by R-DAWG
The only way something like this would work is if Milwaukee had a way to flip both Anunoby and Towns for rebuilding pieces. Even with their contracts, OG is still worth a couple of 1sts and Towns should have positive value.
Dame-Middleton-Anunoby-Towns is a team fighting for the 6th seed with an almost guaranteed first round exit.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:20 pm
by spree8
You can say what you want, but I’m not trading KAT and OG for Giannis for a lot of reasons. I like Brook but father time is catching up to him.
Knicks just need to keep building chemistry, get 100% healthy, and maybe make a minor-mid level deadline deal for some bench scoring.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:54 am
by doogie_hauser
Would be ironic if Giannis ends up at The Nets with a package containing all the picks the Knicks gave up for Giannis.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:06 pm
by spree8
doogie_hauser wrote:Would be ironic if Giannis ends up at The Nets with a package containing all the picks the Knicks gave up for Giannis.
Those picks are nowhere near valuable enough for Giannis. Not to mention, it’s highly unlikely Giannis would accept a trade to a lotto level team
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:36 pm
by BowlRips
In retrospect its hard to fathom the Knicks giving up 5 picks for Bridges unless you understand the details of their plan.
The reason Bridges was their ultimate target is because of his salary slot.
They knew that if they acquired him at the $25m mark, they could still acquire a max player and squeeze under the first Apron.
Now are their $25m players that wouldn't require 5 first round picks to trade for? Surely. But the upside of the fit was there.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:18 am
by doogie_hauser
spree8 wrote:doogie_hauser wrote:Would be ironic if Giannis ends up at The Nets with a package containing all the picks the Knicks gave up for Giannis.
Those picks are nowhere near valuable enough for Giannis. Not to mention, it’s highly unlikely Giannis would accept a trade to a lotto level team
Why is then that Brooklyn and Miami are reportedly two of Giannis favoured destinations should he request a trade ?
If they keep Cam Thomas and a couple of other decent.players the Nets can be a legitimate contender with Giannis.
They have a very impressive young coach too.
Re: Giannis for KAT
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:29 am
by spree8
doogie_hauser wrote:spree8 wrote:doogie_hauser wrote:Would be ironic if Giannis ends up at The Nets with a package containing all the picks the Knicks gave up for Giannis.
Those picks are nowhere near valuable enough for Giannis. Not to mention, it’s highly unlikely Giannis would accept a trade to a lotto level team
Why is then that Brooklyn and Miami are reportedly two of Giannis favoured destinations should he request a trade ?
If they keep Cam Thomas and a couple of other decent.players the Nets can be a legitimate contender with Giannis.
They have a very impressive young coach too.
I’m gunna need a reliable source on that one. It makes no logical sense whatsoever that he’d want to go to a worse team. Cam Thomas and Giannis isn’t winning a championship man, come on.